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sethnintendo on 21 June 2011
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Vetteman94 said:
sethnintendo said:
Vetteman94 said:
thranx said:
Vetteman94 said:
Police Officers and Firefighters are also technically public servants should they not be paid as well?

Cutting their salaries wouldn't do much for our economy. Cutting little things like this and welfare programs that are tiny percentages in our budget will not fix the problem.


It will if we cut enough "little" things. They all add up to a lot. We have to start somewhere, and while I do not think they should work for free, I do feel they get paid way to much for their work and get far too many perks. This also varies from state to state though doesn't it? I know in CA the politicians get way too much money and way too many perks. Its crazy. Its no wonder they work for themselves and not for their communities they have to much invested in their personal gain.

If you cut enough of the little things,  the only thing you will do is hurt the poor people who need these programs to get by on a daily basis.  And we will still not solve the problem.  The main thing we need to do is cut military spending,  and more the size of it than anything,  I dont want them to stop advancing ourmilitary technologies.  We just dont need a military that isn't as bloated as we have.

Social Security, Medicare, and Military are pretty much the 3 biggest chunks of the USA budget.  Just addressing the military won't be enough.  We have to look at ways to make the healthcare more affordable, etc...  Hospitals, doctors, drug companies, HMOs... Tons of corruption and over billing/charging going on in pretty much every aspect of the healthcare industry in the USA.

The whole health care system is one of the few things I envy the people in alot of European countries with national Health Care systems.  I just hope that one day we can have it here.  

I personally experienced the joke that is called health care system in USA.  About 2 years ago I didn't have health insurance at the time (still don't, sorry you can kill me but no money for it or dental) and I happened to develop appendicitis (which is pretty rare for someone that is 27 years old at the time).  Anyways, I pretty much diagnosed myself after suffering from it for about  3 days.  I went to the emergency room and told them I have appendicitis.  They then did some touching on abdomen (to see where the pain was), urine test and a MRI or CAT scan whatever one it was....  Well they came back and notified me that I did have appendicitis (you gotta check to be sure but turns out I was right).  Anyways, I had the surgery and spent one night in the hospital.  The hospital was aware I didn't have insurance.  My parents helped me with most of the bills (1k for surgery (mom worked for same hospital so the surgeon cut the bill in half if paid cash right away, $600 for anesthetist, $600 for MRI/CAT scan whatever one it was, $300 for pathology test).  So basically the total bill for having the diagnosis and surgery was around 2-2.2k.  Then you have the hospital bill for one night stay, barely any check up, helping me get up once to take a piss (couldn't pee into plastic container in the bed), and pain killers.  You know what that bill was for??? I am pretty sure it was around 22k (they sent me the bill in the mail).  Luckily, they eventually wrote it off as tax break.   They probably overcharged a lot because they knew they were going to write it off.  So you are telling me that for one night stay and pain killers cost 20k??? lol....