| Joelcool7 said:
You mention many times higher resolutions then 1080p but most people don't have higher resolution TV's. Also those images to be honest the PC pic is pretty small and comparing the two is difficult. I'd actually say the 360 version looked better. But as I said the image was to small to make a direct comparison. I'm sure the PC is better looking. You make many good points as to why the consoles shouldn't be 8x the power of PS3. Why if you can make a game on a console say 100% more powerful then PS3 look as good as a state of the art PC game, would you care to invest heavy amounts of cash in producing hardware that developers won't use? This isn't like the jump from X-Box to PS3, you can't push the limits as far. Even if the technology existed to make a console 8x the power of PS3. Developers and consumers wouldn't buy it. Infact since WiiU is the only console using multiple screens and the average high end TV is 1080p why would any of the manufacturers need a console more powerful then 100%. You gave several reasons why console manufacturer's shouldn't go all out rather then reasons they should. |
PC gamers can push such high resolutions because that is the only way they can tax current hardware with the level of detail available in current games, no developers are creating games because at the moment creating console level assets is all they need to do as PC gamers have shown they are willing to just use the hardware currently available to push much higher resolutions, multiple monitors and heaps of AA. But current PC hardware is now so powerful that they are running current gamesat such massive resolutions while maintaining over 60fps. If developers used that power to push the level of detail higher PC games would look like the samaritan demo which was running in real time at 60fps 1080p on a high end PC BTW and Epic admited that it was unoptomised and they could have the demo running on less PCs a third as powerful with compariable level of detail.
Just click once on the pic when the mouse pointer turns into a magnifying glass and as long as you are running a modern browser it should show the actual pixels rather than scaling the image.
A console that is twice the power of a PS3 would show no where near the resaults you could get on a modern PC, optomisation will only cary you so far to come close to what a PC that is 8x as powerful as the PS you would need a system that was at least 4 times as powerful. Like I said the API overhead and lack of optomisation only really cut capabalities in half at worst. And for consumer to see a real difference in games you would need more like 6 times the PS3.
Something for you to think about, currently console games are usally 720p at 30fps to jump to 1080p you are rendering 2.5 times the number of pixels so if you want next gen games that look as good as uncharted at 1080p you would need a system at least twices as powerful (optomisations can let you render some pixels faster) so even if the PS4 is twice as powerful as the PS3 if developers want to fill consumers 1080p TVs with unique pixels rather than upscaling like they do now games would other than the games looking a bit sharper would look the same. What consumer in what world is going to think that that is going to be enough to invest several hundred $$$?
Like I said before the next generation will be a big leap because it needs to be for consumers to see it as a woth while investment. There is no point in MS and Sony releasing a console that is any less than 4 times their current system. If they don't think it's worth the investment for new hardware (which is already here for 4-6 times the power without power and heat and cost becoming to big a deal and in 2 years 8 times will be possible) then they just won't release a new console. The benifit of this generation running longer than previus gens is that MS and Sony wont need to invest crazy amounts of money to create a powerful system as the tech already exists. You have to remember at this time in the cycle last generation the 360 was already out and the PS3 launch was imminent, this gen we are looking at another 2 years from now for tech to advance. More's law may be nearing a wall but it hasn't quite hit it yet.
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