9/11 was a conspiracy not a conspiracy theory

[hudsoniscool]

voty2000 said:

hudsoniscool said:

Metallicube said:

Kasz, don't make me laugh with that junk. debunking911.com is the biggest excuse I've seen for a "debunking" site ever. I have read through many of their arguments thoroughly and they do nothing more than distort information, cherrypick, and use vague statements and speculation to try and explain the mess that is the government's official conspiracy - a story with more holes in it than swiss cheese. They pick out the seemginly weakest arguments, while ignoring several others, to try and sway weak minded people into believing them. That is manipulation at its finest.

I'm sorry, but nothing is EVER going to convince me that a 47 story steel reinforced concrete building can implode in 7 seconds without explosives, especially when no plane hit it. The same way nothing will convince me that santa claus exists. There comes a point where you have to separate yourself from the mainstream media propaganda they consistantly pound into your head, and trust your own common sense, your own intuition.

theres no point in arguing with these people. They are brainwashed and narrowminded. Nothing you can say will change there view. All the facts are there but they just cant accept it. If you presented all the facts to everyone in the country a good 30-40% would never believe you because they dont think "the best country in the world" would ever do anything like that.

I love this mentality.  We can't convince people that our theory is true because we have crappy "evidence" so they must be brainwashed.  Calling people brainwashed is a cop-out.  It means that you can't provide sufficient proof to convert so you hide behind this saying to make you feel better about your flawed opinion.

Let's look at this logically.  There are thousands upon thousands of engineers across the globe.  Now, we can assume that the engineers in the USA are unreliable because they don't want to make their country look bad and I'll concede to that even though it is crap. 

But there is the rest of the world.  The rest of the world that looks for any flaw that the USA has and uses it as ammo against them.  Do you actually think that all those engineers all over the world would just let this slip?  If it was a conspiracy, do you honestly think there wouldn't be thousands of engineers showing conclusively that the towers were in fact detonated?  An engineer in China or Afghanistan has to reason to defend the USA so why aren't they speaking up? 

But no, lets believe a few folks and ignore the vast majority of real engineers with integrity.  I just can't comprehend people that ignore the fact that if planes couldn't cause the towers to collapse then thousands of credible engineers would point it out. 

But I am brainwashed I guess because I use logic.  It's just funny hearing it from you.  It's like a blind man telling me my shirt is pink when it's actually green.

We show you the facts and then you sweep them under the table ignoring them. This entire time we present solid proof that there was a conspiracy and you guys dont even argue against them you just say something thats irrelevent(like whats bolded). You ignore suck facts as:

Never has a high rise steel building collapsed because of fire before or after 9/11 but that day it happened "3 times". there was even a test on a high rise steel building in which they burned it as hot as they could for something like 18 hours and it never collapsed but the buildings during 911 did only after a few hours.

jetfuel cannot burn at high enough temperature to cause steel to melt into molten metal.

thermite was found at several differant areas. thermite is used as an explosive and can easily melt steel unlike jetfuel.

Hundreds of evewitnesses reported explosions, Before the planes hit and right before the buildings came down.

All 4 black boxes were never recovered. since they were put into planes only 1 black box has never been recovered(not including planes that crashed in water or plane that crashed at 19k feet).

All 3 buildings fell as if they were demolished. Both the twin towers had week sides because of the planes of if they were to fall they should have fallen over at its weekest points not straight down into its self

George bush lied about seeing the  the plane hit the tower

One of the head guys that was investigating said there was no molten metal week after 911 a clear lie

I would put more but i have to go. Explain to me how these facts are wrong.