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Kasz216 on 14 January 2008
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superchunk said:
Kasz216 said:
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superchunk said:
@lanceuppercut -- the rest of the region hate us because we support Israel so blindly. If we actually forced them to follow international law, maybe just maybe the majority of that region wouldn't hate us.

Where is that our job? Shouldn't the UN do something?


The UN can't do anything when one of the Big Five doesn't want it to. And don't pretend that isn't the way you like it. The US is so miserly with its own sovereignty that it won't even sign a ban on landmines (completely indescriminant weapons) and generally disregards treaties that it has signed whenever it's no longer convenient to observe them.

One of the Big 5? You know the Europeon Union is Pro Israel as well right? I wouldn't start a US bitch fest here. If we stopped supporting them another country would likely pick up the slack. Or a combination of them. It's not like the other 4 with veto power don't support some pretty ridiculious bills as well.

 


No other nation in the world supports Israel like the US. Sure, they nearly all support Israel as a legitimate state, however, they all also state that Palestine should exist. EU nations usually always vote opposite the US in regards to Israel. If it wasn't for US blind support Israel would have a lot of UN heat.


Disagree.  I've never once heard a president say they don't support a Palestine state existing.  In fact every president i've heard has supported a two state solution.  I mean the US presidents to spend a lot of time over there trying to hammer out peace.   Clinton was positive it would go down as his greatest achievement if he could work out a two state solution.

The US would like a 2 state solution, but would also like the violence to stop, which is going to have to stop from palestine first, as Israel as a country is rather jumpy.  That happens when you get founded in an area where everyone dislikes you as a place to go because everyone in the places you like hate you, and later on try and kill you, and other countries in the area have no problem to take potshots at israel.   

That's why we give them so much money.  The other nations in the world that actually want to destroy israel. 

If the US didn't pick up the check someone else would, as Israel needs funding from other threats in the region.