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elticker said:
brendude13 said:
elticker said:
kevin the wiiite said:
This topic is pointless. Its a religious issue, and the differences between circumcised and uncircumcised men are minimal enough both medically and in terms of sexual pleasure that they aren't quantifiable. Plus, how is it possible to know that it doesn't feel as good circumcised if almost everyone has it done as a baby? It's not mutilation because it doesn't "degrade the appearance or function of any living body," as per wikipedia.

Female genital cutting is practiced in Middle Eastern and African countries, generally Muslim, as a way of exerting male dominance in a sexual relationship and is expressly designed to remove pleasure from sex. That is mutilation. Case closed.



this is bullshit and you are bullshit. sry i am angry cause you are saying something without proof and insulting me as a muslim. i know my religion and in no way is there a line in the qoran or sharia which says we are supposed or even hints to circumsing women, it's outlawed in islam. In islam everything is allowed except anal sex and we are supposed to pleasure women in sex so how the fuck does islam say that and then says circumsize your women. please make sure you post remotely accurate info.

There isn't a line in the Qoran that tells Muslims to blow infidels up either, but some Muslims still do it.

It's the same principle here, I have heard about this happening, they probably use their religion as an excuse to carry out female circumsicion.

you do know that it is illegal to do female circumcision over here, and is also taboo in religion. actually come to think about it if anyone actaully did that there would be alot of media coverage and trail. You associate the circumcision being by some uneducated african proabably somewhere  in kenya or niroubi with him doing it for islam when they actually have tribal ritauls for that and has nothing to do with islam. You know thats like associating rape and child molestation with christains because of there priests.

It has nothing to do with islam and is a sin in islam to do that end of story. why they do it is nothing associated with islam.they can't use it even slightly as an excuse.

also the comment about middle eastern countries, i know that in any arab speaking country it is not allowed maybe afghanistan (i heard they do terrible stuff to women over there)?

also blowing up to kill innocent people(no armed) is a sin and the actual act is as you commit suicide in it which = automatic ticket to hell.

dam bin laden and his friends along with the american media fucked up how islam looks to an outsider

I know it isn't linked to Islam, and I'm not talking about the Middle East here, I'm talking about African Muslims. They used their religion as a defense so they can justify what they are doing, despite it having nothing to do with their religion at all. It probably is a tribal ritual, I know that it has nothing to do with Islam.

Religion is a sensitive thing, if you associate something like female circumcision with religion then you can walk all over people.

And as you said, murder and suicide is a sin in Islam, yet extremists still associate it with their religion, they are complete hypocrite using religion as a defense.

And trust me, I know how you feel, sadly some Americans will lap up any shit Fox News tells them, other Western countries aren't that much better either. Luckily BBC news is ACTUALLY news, not propaganda.