Portugal goes right sided

[lestatdark]

DélioPT said:

lestatdark said:

 

Actually PSD in it's current format (A.K.A - With Pedro Passos Coelho leadership) is leaning more towards the liberal side, but it's still a heavily centre-right party. Many of the politics that they'll enforce are similar to what PS would enforce, just coated with different wording. But since they're making a coalition with the CDS-PP party, which is more of a true right-wing party, they'll have to make some common ground between both parties, and that will lead to more right-wind minded politics than if PSD were leading as a single majority. 

Kinda how it was during the 2002-2005 PSD/CDS-PP coalition government (Durão Barroso first and then Santana Lopes, with Paulo Portas being the minister of defense). 

The problem with our political divisions (well, one of the many) is that the current 5 political parties with parlament seat in Portugal don't fit the "normal" model for left or right wings.

PS is to the left and PSD is to the right, but both are heavily center based, with much more things in common than in separation. CDS-PP is the only right political party. CDU and BE are extreme left, with CDU being a heavily communist based party (which uses the Democrat suffix to gain votes only, they have no democrat policies whatsoever) and BE being what you would call "socialist-anarchists".
So even with CDU and BE being left wing parties, their positions are so extremed that they would never support any kind of political input that PS have (and because of that, it led to the political push to get PS out of the government, which PSD quickly took advantage of). On the contrary, PSD and CDS-PP have much more common ground between then. 

And that's Portuguese politics in a nutshell = crap.

Actually you are kinda right, PSD`s and PS`s politics in time won`t/wouldn`t be all that different. That`s why manby have accused - especially BE and CDU - of PS going right - or is that, wrong? :D
All my life i have been hearing is how PSD is right and CDS-PP is centre-right. And i honestly, think that way, at least, this time it`s seems PSD is more open to going beyong the agreement with the troika than CDS-PP is (i.e. privatizations)
The agreement between CDS and PSD is really a given since both, at least according to people and some ideas by both, seem to share a common ground. I`m glad it was PSD who won, otherwise it would chaotic to form government and to keep it stable.

About PSD, the other during a roundtable someone said "PSD is right wing" and was refuted by a lady in PSD claiming that they were Socialist and Democratic! First time i heard someone from PSD refuse to labeled right wing - which is fair since Passos Coelho seems to be more concerned about the social state than other PSD leaders.

The problem with CDU and BE, to me at least, is that they leave in a pink world, where the state should always provide - even when it can`t, it should.

Pretty much, especially since the Troika demands will affect a lot of the socialist measures in our constitution, thus the heightned concern from Passos Coelho about the social state than the majority of PSD leaders. 

I'm also glad that PSD won, not that I support them, but because with a majority governemnt (even if it's a coalition) will allow Portugal to weather the FMI and Troika storm with less side-effects than if a minority goverment from PS would suffer. A minority PS goverment would only mean than in another 2 years we would have a new election and most of the Troika and european demands would be vetoed in Parlament, especially from the left wing aisle (CDU and BE).