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25 gigs is plenty, its not like devs were using all that space on PS3 anyway, and i could give a damn about it playing Bluray movies, not important to me. BUt the eight gigs is lame. 360 have 4 and 5 gigs, and those are even lamer. At least the USbs wont cost as much. IMHO if im a core gamer im gonna need at least 60 gigs. THe amount of money i would have to spend to get that much with USBs, NInty might as well just make another SKu with more memory, MS does it and Sony does it. It just makes more sense, i dont want to have to worry about which stick has what save and what game on it. THat is PS1 era crap