Keep Your Sperm Under Lock and Key

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Kasz216 said:

 

It's really easy stuff to understand... yet you don't get it.

I'm not sure how to explain it in simplier terms.

Except maybe this...

if you drop a gum wrapper on the ground... anyone who finds that gum wrapper can use it in any way they wish.  (Or a public trashcan for that matter.)

It's the same with sperm.

The difference is... a gum wrapper will never be a fully legitamite human being with it's own rights.

Such difference only happens sometime after conception.

To logically hold your position... you would have to be Pro-Life... and i know for a fact you aren't.   In fact... your so Pro Choice i believe you said it doesn't count as a baby until it's born.

 

At this point i'm just going to have to blame it on your racist, sexist, homophobic culture.  With the Homophobia not sticking because well... you are gay.

It's like how large swaths of individual minorities complain about all the stereotypes about them, yet still totally believe every stereotype about other minorities.

 

As is often seen in a lot of racism between blacks and hispanics... and how black people were actually the reason the homophobic Prop 9 got passed.

Several points:

A. The woman didn't randomly find the sperm on the ground, and I'm not aware that the guy told her she can keep the sperm. As I said, she could've decieved him by saying she would dispose of the sperm.

B. If the sperm really was her property, the outcome of what she did with it shouldn't affect him. It's not important that the baby is a human being. The man did not participate in the conception of the child, therefore the child is not his responsability.

C. The woman concieved the baby deliberately and artificialy, using the man's sperm, but without his consent. Since the result of this process obviously affected him, he should've been consulted before the act was commited. Essetially he's a sper donor and, if I'm not mistaken, you need legal documents attesting that the donor consented to having his sperm used for the conception of a child, before you can go through with IFV. If this was done at a clinic, and they did not ask where the sperm came from, and if the person who produced it consented or not to having his sperm used, then he should be able to sue both the clinic and the woman, as fraud was commited.

As I said, you can't have it both ways: you can't say that the sperm became her property, but he has to suffer the consequences of her actions.

D. What does my racist, sexist, homophobic culture have to do with this? Over here it's essentially impossible to for a man to get custody of his children, and that's even if the mother is insane (I know of such a case). Also, there's no way this guy would've gotten off not paying child support, even if the woman had raped him (I'm not even sure it's considered that a woman can rape a man in the Romanian legal system).

E. I'm gay?! O_O I did not know that... Wonder why no one has told me up 'till now?