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padib said:
brazylianwisnia said:

 

There's so much stuff in here, I don't know where to start. Well, I'll just list the reasoning issues I see, without explaining why they're problematic in too much detail:

a) The existence of Option 2, given Nintendo's long-time history, and change of vision since the exception that is the Wii.

b) Nintendo fans = 15 M. It's very difficult to number the amount of Nintendo fans because different fans buy different games. Do you consider the casual crowd fans? If you mean core fans, then you may be right, you may be wrong, it's very hard to tell unless Nintendo were a console that only catered to the core. I'll leave it at that for now.

c) HD twins fans won't buy it because GOW is a AAA-18 (lame paraphrasing to make a point). I don't like GOW. Is that a good enough argument? I don't like Killzone. I don't like Resistance and all these war games. I only like COD because it's almost a war simulator, but that's it. Some HD twin consumers like Halo and not GOW, you know what I mean (maybe).

d) Nintendo won't destroy its family friendly look. That's what people thought when it published Conquer's Bad Fur Day, or Eternal Darkness. As a matter of fact, Ninty is reaching out to Rockstar and the likes to get the more serious games on its console. Mind you blood and sex <> serious.

e) It will be very hard to interest casuals once again because motion gameing moves no one today cause every company will offer it. Motion gaming <> casual gaming. They're related, but far from equivalent. Time Crisis and Top Skater were core arcade games in the day (and still today), yet were by no means casual. DDR is more like you put it, but it's not a rule, it's more of an exception.

f) The most difficult for Nintendo is that they start long before competition. Not for N64, not for GC, not even for NES. That's 3 out of 5 home consoles. I don't even know if SNES came before Genesis. It did come before playstation, which completely copied the SNES controller, for that you're almost on (they're different gens).

g) "This gen will probably sale very close each other.I predict 130mln Wiis 115mln PS3 100mln X360" The trend isn't going up, and sales are locked at 130,000 a week for all consoles, your predicitions are based on what trend that escapes me?

h) Every sentence has an issue... So this gen will bring money to all 3. Well, thank God cause I don't know what the objective would be otherwise. Of course they made money. If they didn't, they'd be out of business. Trust me, it's happened before. Of the 3, you can be certain Nintendo made the most money this gen, by leaps and bounds, not only in terms of profit margin for its hardware, but even more with the profits it made on its phenomenally successful software.

:) Don't worry, only a few days until we see that Viper 1 and others were probably right. June 6th that is. Our vindication day. haha

1.I meant true fans of Nintendo.the gamers which enough argument is that is Nintendo console and even if it would have 2 Mario games and 2 zelda games and 1 metroid they would buy it.

2.HD Twins owners bought it to play games that Sony or MS offers.that's my point

3.no matter what anybody will say I do not believe Nintendo will make themeselfes a game where you can ripp some one arms and head or cut sumbady in half with tons of blood.that's just won't gona happen.Of course 3rd party can publish it on their console but Nintendo will never publish and develop such game by itself.

4.I predict it because of multimedia capabilities and i do not remember console that sold 15m in past gens a year like PS3 with price point of 299$ so we have many more console entusiasts nowadays.at price point 149$ every gamer that don't own current gen already and technologichal maniac must buy it and that price will be reality near 2014.After this year(2011) price cut we will also see boost of sales.

5.no it's not obvious.Sega lost much money to prove it to you :) and as for today Sony is in overall loss in business around ps3 and MS after loosing 2bln$ on Xbox and 2-3bln$ on 360 they haven't made a penny in overrall in plus.But they will in 2 years from now.

6.PSX didn't copy SNES. Mrs Ohga wanted controllers to be flat and rectangular as SNES one but designer fightet with the Sony bess so it can be 3D and with much more buttons.