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Kasz216 on 29 May 2011
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Mr Khan said:
HappySqurriel said:
 

 

The reason for this is obvious, as a third party mediator you should not be making statements about what the outcomes of a negotiation should be prior to the negotiation happening; especially if you’re giving one side far more than they asked for while demanding the other side to sacrifice far more than they would ever be willing to.

I have been reading and watching the opinions of experts on this for the last couple of weeks, and it has become clear that salvaging these peace talks will become nearly impossible now due to Obama’s foolish statement.

The talks were unsustainable in that direction anyway. Fatah doubled down several times, and didn't get even the most basic point of a cessation of settlement expansions. Clearly their technique was invalid, and a strong hand of third party mediation is necessary to get anything resembling a fair deal for the Palestinians

Use of a strong third-party guarantor is often one of the most effective means of conflict resolution, due to the basic trust issue that exists in most peace negotiations. Clearly one was needed here, when Israel has proven utterly unwilling to make even the most basic concessions in the West Bank

Or so we're lead to believe.  I'm still not convinced those leaks were geninue.

Afterall, the Palestine government says a lot were forged... even though having such things leaked, and the Israelis refusing would be a big PR boost to them.

People say they discounted them because the Palestinians would of been mad that they offered away that much and would be replaced....

if that was the case... why would they offer something that they knew they couldn't get Palestinians to accept anyway?

If anything what those negotiations show is that the government isn't preparing Palestine for reality.

As for what's fair?  That's exactly why it does need to be worked out between those two.

Afterall, we're in this position because Palestine attacked Israel.

Not the other way around.