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Forza is better than GT wtf u dont know shit about GT. GT 4 for PS2 had 751 cars all presice the game runs at 1080i and it a PS2 title GT 5 is gonna of the chain and it did not even come outniether were there any deoms of it, GT HD is only a pimped demo version of GT 4 and the graphics looked damm nice and it was just a demo.