Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
MrBubbles said:
hi thanks for not reading. if had actually read the entire article you would have noticed he did not oppose the position. the objection was to the need to solely repeat it in the g8 statement...the G8 statement now supports what was outlined by obama and does not just repeat specific parts of what he said.
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Damn, i do apologize. Harper's statement was circuitous and i ended up getting the wrong message out of it (partially because i wanted to)
Sorry.
Still, a call for teh Palestinian state to be demilitarized is worrisome. Its not like their military could actually be a threat to Israel, and Israel's put up with neighbors with militaries up to this point...
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Not really, I mean one of the issues is that peace would be seen as just a pretext for building up an army with which to attack Israel. They could EVENTUALLY build up enough to be a threat, espiecally supported by other middle eastern countries.
Heck, it's like that Egyptian guy who was on here back when Mubarek was being put down who was happy so they could declare war on Israel eventually in revenge for losing a war he thought they should of one, but lost due to one tactical mistake.
For an analous situation... say your working in Washington DC, and suddenly the south gets REALLY anti-north again and the civil war states all decide to cede again and talking about how they should run the ENTIRE country.
does this make sense to allow? Espiecally since they would be just miles away from our nations capital?
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The strength gap with Israel has only grown since the Six Days war. It would be hard for Syria to do anything meaningful right now, and the Palestinians would start basically from zero. A Palestinian state would have to acknowledge Israel's right to exist from the getgo, which would sunder them from the Iranian alignment immediately. It would take them decades to build up to that level, and in the hangtime they would be afraid enough of disastrous defeat to hold off.
Independence should come with a mutual nonagression pact, but an independent Palestine has to have all the rights of a sovereign state or else its not proper independence, similar to if they got "independence" while they were still crisscrossed with Israeli-controlled "restricted zones."
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That... sounds like a bunch of idealized nonsense. The Palestine state akcnolwedges Israels right to exist... ok. How does that actually ever stop them from attacking Israel?
Why would that sunder them from Iranian alignmnet? Like, seriously, why? Because they were forced to say something to get their own country? You don't think Iran understands having to lie to the international community?
