Obama calls for Israel to restore 1967 boundaries

[Kasz216]

vlad321 said:

Kasz216 said:

Dude.... vlad you've completey contradicted yourself at this point.

And this is why a "logic based society" like you want won't work... you want such a thing but can't even keep your logic remotely consistant.

If romans conquering Jews = Jews lose claim... then Jews conquering Palestinians = Palestinians lose claim.

Espiecally when the Palestinians got way more help then the Jews.

I already mentioned exactly what my problem with jews conquering palestinians is. They had help from a neutral party that the other side wouldn't attack ( I think in this case it was Czechoslovakia, could have been Hungry but I am not sure). It wasn't so much palestinians attacking the jews as much as all arabic locals attacking the jews. All of which would be affected by having a jewish state in the middle of the islamic region. If the arabic league had won then the resolution could have STILL been all sorts of fucked for the palestinians depending on how the land would have been partitioned.

My problem specifically is the western help that the jews received.

So did Rome when they conquered palestine.  So does... every single country in every single war... ever.

Your problem with it... is arbitrary.  A Jewish state in the middle of the region effects everyone one of them.  It also effects the west... and everyone else.  

What you consider an outsider and what you consider "valid help" is purely arbitrary to shape around the view you already have.