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scorptile said:
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glimmer_of_hope said:

I love how people just don't give the Wii the respect it deserves. Here are a few facts that people completly over look.

1) The PS2 was the 1st, 6th Generation Console to be released. It had a Year and 1 Month sales lead on either Xbox or the GameCube. The PS2 had absolutly no competition againt it. Thats one reason why it's numbers are so high.

2) The Wii on the other hand was released at the same time as the PS3, 1 Year after the 360. We are talking about a Console that was way behind in technology, and had 2 current Generation Consoles to contend with. And was still able to outsell them. Theres no wonder the Wii cant catch up to the PS2 sales, the PS2 had a massive advantage. But even seeing the Wii knock at the PS2's door is absolutly amazing, thats what makes it.....in my opinion.....the greatest console ever made.

Sales does not make it the greatest console ever made.

The Wii is only so popular because it's target audience ISN'T the typical hardcore gamer.

While I do think it is underrated by hardcore gamers because they say "it's just a kids console", it still doesn't deserve the sales just because it's the latest trendy Christmas present.


Partly false, its market doesn't have have typical hardcore gamers, because 3rd parties chose to not bring those games over.

Had the first years of the Wii been given the same 3rd party games with only losses to HD visuals, Wii would gained the core gamer as well.

However, 3rd parties were short sighted in the beginning and then decided to not spend the money to make their engines Wii friendly as they were comfortable with PS360/PC userbase and created their own self-fulling logic of who the Wii market was and was not.

you're making the assuption that "hardcore gamers" would give up the graphics, a control scheme more suited to some types of games, superior online support etc... in my opnion your assuption is wrong

If they weren't willing to give that up....

all hardcore gamers would be playing on PCs right now.

The real "dirty secret" of gaming that people don't want to admit too?

CoD and GTA are casual.

Nitendo didn't target casual gamers anymore then anyone else.  What they targeted were different gamers and people who were getting bored of regular gaming.  People up for innovation.

this is what i was thinking is that pc gaming has turned into a dirty little secret but yet more and more and even gaming mags are starting to realize pc gaming is making a full on return. and its not cause of graphics its cause the games are wayyy behind the advancements of the pc hardware to where you can build a pc (my pc is already 2 years old) with semi old tech (the hardware in mine was a year old already) and make a gaming pc to where you just add ram and your good to go for 6 plus years. my pc might have 3 year old tech in it but ive yet to find any game graphically that can drag down the pc. ive maxed out the demo of medal of honor the new one. now tell me this why does the pc have to be dirty secret when people game on pc's and there are roughly billions of pc gamers out there but yet as on here no where do i see the comparison of a pc version against a ps3/360 version like portal 2 i bet sold as much or more then the two consoles combined. and is still selling at an incredible rate. 

I meant the dirty secret was that CoD and GTA were casual.  Any "super successful" game is really a casual game because the majority of it's sales are going to people who only buy 4 games a year max.


Though yeah, a decent PC lasts you a LOT longer then it did.  Espiecally stuff like steam that makes it so much easier to legacy play.

Also fun about PC is it's a bit more of a meritocracy.

You don't really have a built in preference towards a company's products because they also made you console.