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loves2splooge said:
Tizona said:
loves2splooge said:

Nintendo is capable of fucking up. Look at the N64 and Gamecube. Not on the handheld realm before but there's a first time for everything. I find it amusing that the same Nintendo fans that defended the underpowered Wii are all over this stereoscopic 3D gimmick.


Sony said this in 2005 about the DS:

"With the DS, it’s fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen,” Harrison continued. “But I fear that it won’t have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick – so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that.”

I guess I just like gimmicks.

The stereoscopic 3D is way more alienating as a gimmick than the touchscreen though. There are a lot of people that can't see in stereoscopic 3D very well (this isn't just some small minority) and there are many more that get eyestrain/headaches/ill from playing with 3D. If you're not going to be playing with the 3D or you can't play with the 3D on very long, what is the point of a 3DS? Nintendo could have released a DS successor at a much cheaper price point without the 3D tech with $30 games (instead of $40) and it would have sold quite well. Nintendo is out of touch with the mass market. The mass market does not want 3D Ocarina of Time or Metal Gear Solid 3 or Star Fox 64 or whatever the hell us is supposed to be the savior of the hardware. The average DS consumer is very different from the average Nintendo 64 and Gamecube consumer (the type of gamers that make up the Nintendo subforum on vgchartz). The 3DS is going to lose a lot of DS consumers, and much of the expanded audience is going to get their "casual" fix from smartphones instead and some of the more dedicated gamers (particularly in Japan but also some niche gamers in the west) are going to defect to the NGP.

Obviously I don't expect you to accept the possibility that the 3DS is going to take a huge fall from the DS. I'm not going to convince someone with a signature full of Zelda stuff. Except for the small little Malstrom faction on here (who represents the oldschool Nintendo fan that thinks the N64/Gamecube sucked), the Nintendo hardcores are mainly out of touch with the mass market (see: Nintendo 64 and Gamecube). Even back in the GBA days, before the audience expansion, there were tens of millions of Nintendo fans like me that loved the GBA (which reminded me of the 8-bit/16-bit days) but thought the N64/Gamecube sucked (yeah it had some good games. But doesn't come close to the NES/SNES and Nintendo's handheld line). That's why the GBA sold like what? More than triple, almost quadrouple what the Gamecube did.

Can you give me a source on the "not minority" who can't see Steroscopic 3D or have eyestrain?  I just like facts is why.

Dude. Don't question my "hardcore" card. I'm a Nintendo guy yes, but I'm also an adult. I full well know Nintendo can fuck up, and that they have in the past. 3DS may not sell as well as DS. But you can't have the argument both ways that PSP is not a failure cause it sold alot, even if not as much as the DS, but if 3DS does not outsell DS, it is a fail. It's silly.

As for GBA selling more than Gamecube, First, handhelds have historically always outsold console for multiple reasons, not the least of them being general affordability. Second, Gamecube was not a great success, nor was it a great system, I agree. But do you honeslty want all the systems on the market to cater the "mass market" Isn't ok for one company to cater to a demographic, while another one caters to something different. I don't want your FPS' and WRPGS and race sims in my platformers and party games. If Nintendo went for the mass market, they would fail. Expecting a company to willfully go for a market they know they cannot dominate is not a well though out expectation.

3DS may or may not fail. I'm just asking you to let it do what it's gonna do, and try to enjoy if you want.

BTW: I think this has just popped my "Video Game Forum Argument" cherry. Thanks!



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