MrBubbles said:
Mr Khan said:
It's a simple matter that the Palestinians desire a free state, therefore they should get one. It's not about historical claims which we cannot enforce unless we resort to barbarism (like Mr. Bubbles happy fun "They're lucky they didn't blow up the dome of the rock" claim), it's about the Palestinians getting what they as a people want. The harder question is who defines "people," mostly in right-of-return matters
The problem being Israel has a very welcoming immigration policy for Jews, so similar rights should be given to Palestinians expelled before, and land enough given that would allow the Palestinians to return. Nominally the territories should at least be homogenous too, which is why i would support moving the settlers away from their various pockets and into one tract of land more fairly distributed (for their numbers, the settlers own disproportionately too much land), as i can't foresee any scenario that wouldn't involve Israel's apartheid-esque controls over the West Bank in the name of "keeping the settlers safe."
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certainly not as barbaric as trying to usurp another groups religion and then building on their holy sites.
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Which they did like 1300 years ago. There's some threshold beyond which no-one should have to take responsibility for historical actions. I mean, should Iraq start demanding that Mongolia pay for the irrevocable damage the Mongols did to Mesopotamian irrigation systems and the untold destruction of literature held in Baghdad's libraries when they invaded about 750 years ago?
Israel as a modern government can be held responsible for their actions, and would justly be taken to task if they ever did such a thing (through legitimate channels, let alone the endless wave of extranational Islamic terror it would inspire), but the Palestinians certainly cannot be held responsible for something their ancestors did 1300 years ago.
It would be just as stupid for Israel, say, to start demanding reparations from Spain for the Inquisition