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Dr.Grass on 19 May 2011
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Viper1 said:
Red4ADevil said:

@ digitalnasties I was thinking the same thing. So far nobody has mentioned this. But if you think about it, isnt holoraphic storage still a working progress? last time I remember they still pretty pricey to mass produce for the general market.

I mentioned it several times in one of the other threads.  I'd really love to see them take that route. 

justinian said:
Viper1 said:

Which is a distinct possiblity.  The 3DS uses them with up to 8 GB of capacity.  With falling flash memory prices, I don't see why the N6 couldn't use 16 or even 32 GB flash RAM carts.


Regardless of how much the price falls  flash memory will always be far more expensive than blank BR disc.

A quick check show me I will pay around £15.00 for a 16GB of any given flash format. For £15.00 I can get a blank 50GB BR-Disc and pay much less for a smaller capacity disc.

I'm looking from a different perspective.   No mechanical drive.  Mecahnical drives are the leading cause of all console errors in Nintendo home consoles since the introduction fo the GC.  Granted it is still fewer than other consoles.   By going back to cartrdiges you eliminate a huge error prone component.

Further still you gain the ability to read and write, much faster access speeds, faster transfer speeds, a quiter and cooler system, lower FEC and UL fees, etc....   Sounds like a decent trade off to me.  And if the ystem can do procedrual texturing, you won't need masssive capacity anyway.

Zekkyou said:
Viper1 said:

I've seen the demo.  It is basically their UE3 with DX11 shaders added.  It also took 3 GeForce 580 GPU's to render it.  Sony and MS's next console will not have the same graphical muscle as 3 GeForce 580's. 

As for it being a larger jump from the current systems than the PS3/X360 were from the PS2/Xbox?   You're the only person I've come across to believe that.  And I speak to gamers and developers everyday.


*Looks at viper's profuile sees nothing but nintendo games* oh i see ;) no point arguing is there ;D I asume all those gamers and "developers" (rofl) are not ps3 or 360 user

If we asume that sony is correct that next gen wont start for the HD consols until 2014 or 15 then 3 gtx 580's isnt that impossible to see. If u read the origonal thread about the UE4 qwith the tech demo u will find many epople (with alot of expiraicne in PC gameing) saying that it was actualy not that far away having graphics card that powerfull at afordable prices. The only problem they have is the heat which is quickly imporiving (look at the gtx 570. incredably powerfull hard that can run crysis maxed out at 70C).

So dont acuse me of being the only one who things the jump will be just as if not bigger when there is an entire thread with people saying the same thing ;)

We can look at the PS3 and X360's release period and compare them to to the power of 3 top of the line GPU's from 3-4 years prior.   PS3 wouldn't match the fill rate of 3 high end cards from 2002-2003.  Not even close.

As for me being a Nintendo fan, it's irrelevant.  I co-own a media network with 35,000 members (90% PS3 fans) and being media I speak with developers all the time.   And my statement was not an accusation which would be a suggestion that you inteionally did somethign wrong.  But merely an observation that still to this point, you are the only one I've spoken to that believes the jump from PS3/X360 to the next generation will be larger than the jump from PS2/Xbox to current generation.   You might want to talk with some publishers about how the feel about their budgets skyrocketing again.

I've been really amused by this conversation.

''you are the only one I've spoken to that believes the jump from PS3/X360 to the next generation will be larger than the jump from PS2/Xbox to current ''

You say this in a 'matter of fact' way, even though  every single year processors get faster at a quicker rate than before and the prices go down. YOU are in fact the first person to state otherwise in my experience, so I don't know who you speak with...

'' I co-own a media network with 35,000 members (90% PS3 fans) and being media I speak with developers all the time''

... Ok, so Moore's law is no more or what? This is seriously baffling.