Church forced girl, 15, to apologize for pregnancy by rape

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The Fury said:

sapphi_snake said:

The Fury said:

Your morals might not but society's as a whole does. It's religion that established the morals, religious spread was/is far stronger then common thinking or philosphy. Christianity might have borrowed views on western morality choices but what of the rest of the world? Many regions have their own views on morality unconnected to Christianity yet these areas do have faiths which contain those definitions of right and wrong.

I already gave Confucianism as an example. Confucius wasn't a religious leader, but after his death the followers of his philosophical belief created a religion around him. All morals are a result of philosophy, they are not dictated by some supernatural force. Religion may perpetuate some morals, but the problem with religion as a source for morals is that it takes the morals from the logical system in which they were created. It demands it's adherents to blindly follow those morals, considers them absolute, and rejects any change (a serious flaw, because as human knowledge advances, some morals become irrational and even dangerous).

Nowadays people think more than they used to, and lots of them choose what morals to follow based on rational thought, rather that it was written in some book.

Is there no such thing as religious philosphy? Philosphy is just the study of lifes problems and answering them, religion can do it all. I just believe that most of the worlds ethics are based on early religious establishment. 

I agree with your last statement though.

There is such a thing as religious philosophy, but there's not much ration in it, as it starts off on false premises.

Your statement that the world's ethic systems are based on early religous establishment is false (Europe's example is a very good one, as we know that the Greek philosopher's based their views on rational thought, not on any religion; Confucious also based his views on his thinking, rather than on any religous beleifs, and his views represent the foundation of the ethical systems in Eastern Asia).