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S.T.A.G.E. on 12 May 2011
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Michael-5 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Michael-5 said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
Michael-5 said:
 

Yea, but many of PS3's exclusives never made it outside of Japan. I think on North American and european shores, the total number of exclusives is still slightly more on the 360, but the different really isn't that big. However ontop of that, a 360 timed exclusive is cheaper to buy as it's an older game.

As for fall 2011 - Twisted Metal was originally an arcade game. How can you call this a hot AAA title, but a likely Panzer Dragoon game casual. How old are you, Panzer Dragoon is one of the best franchises in gaming, seeing a new installment is just as big, if not bigger, then a new Twisted Metal.

As for The Last Guardian, that's a 2012 title, it was delayed a long while ago, so get your facts straight. If you want to count this game, then you have to count Cryteks 360 exclusive Project Kingdoms, or Alan Wake 2. Also KZ3 and LBP2 already released. I was only refering to upcoming games because people someone said "PS3 has significanly more games then 360's 2 games coming out" which isn't true.

So for the rest of 2011, PS3 Basically only has Resistance 3, Uncharted 3, and InFamous 2. That's a 3:2 ratio between the more major 9/10 games from PS3 to 360. Microsoft always announces a game late, and there is strong rumor of a Halo: Combat Evolved remake, so after E3 this list could even out.

ICO Collection will be a great game, I only refer to it as modest because it won't be a console seller like Uncharted 3 or Gears 3 will be. This is a game for people who already own a PS3 and missed out on those games on the PS2. It's impact on console sales will be no stronger then Rise of Nightmares exclusive for 360, so if were going to ignore at least 3 quality Kinect games (Steel Batallion, Project Dracon, and Rise of Nightmares among others like Haunt, Michael Phelps, Heavy Fire: Afghanistan, and Codename D), it's fair to ignore games like this and Twisted Metal (which I'll repeat, was originally intended to be a PSN title).

WOW....

basically your line up for 360 to combat ps3 is a bunch of unannounced titles and specualtions?you keep on bringing up that alan wake 2 and halo remake shit wheres your proof? if thats the case lets throw in unannounced games that sony first party are developing shall we? hmm lets see sonybend game,sony santa monica 2 game being developed rumour,starhawk,Quantic new ps3 exclusive,sony cambridge,sony london studio,heavenly sword 2 rumor....you also keep on putting kinect titles but no PSmove? I doesnt matter either way  even if you dont list em you can still name more than 5 games for ps3 2011 line up unlike for 360 which you need to pull every thing just to match ps3's.

you guys like to throw your "MS announces games late" BULL CRAP when  games like alan wake or conviction was revealed in fukin 2005 or games like fable 2 and gears 2 which was announce year or 2 ago before its released.

Finally to finish this off notice how even if I dont include a bunch of rumored and speculated titles aswell as PSmove crap on ps3 line up it still can match everything 360 got to offer down the line while you need to name unannounced games and kinects just to even it out with ps3.....YUP no big difference there(rolls eye).

I never counted Alan Wake 2 or Halo Remake in anything. I only said anything is possible this E3, and said they are possibilities. It's still 3 PS3 games versus 2 360 games. If you count all the exclusives, even the less impactful ones, it's 8 to 6 in favor of 360 I believe. Yea a lot of the 360 games are Kinect, and I personally won't get any, but the idea of Panzer Dragoon is pretty cool.

You're singling out my excluson of The Last Guardian since it's a 2012 title, which has little to do for the arguement. You're ignoring the main point of 3 main PS3 games to 2 main 360 games for fall 2011. After E3 lets talk about 2012, but until then 2012's lineup is almost pure speclation. I mean only recently did they announce an Assassin's Creed for 2011. Common man.

Also what Move exclusive games are confirmed for 2011? InFamous 2 is Move capable and so are other, and I included them, but there isn't a single confirmed 2011 Move exclusive that hasn't been released already.


It's not 8 to 6 in favor of anything for Microsoft. The PS3 still has exclusives ontop of 15-or 16 which are still waiting to arrive. This includes Move titles. Move and Kinect are the genres battling out with each other and neither of those are AAA. Two games are still two games and the only time that will change is during E3. If Microsoft talks about more kinect games it still wont count. Core games is what its coming down to and thats what is driving Sonys sales right now. The core gamers who still have a last gen system or own another console are buying competitors consoles or a new gen console for the first time and Sony is eating them up because of the games despite the PSN issue. Microsoft only has a chance in fall, which is why you're only counting fall, when there are still three other quarters in the entire year. The overall year will account for more Sony consoles being purchased in fall (wait and see). Gears 3 will help, but only as much as Kinect did. As much as I love to Gears franchise I believe it's reached its peak in sales. It will still sell well and Forza 4 will only really sell in Europe. Now that GT5 is out, we'll see how many people will even care. 

PS3 has 15-16 games waiting to arrive, but only 6 more for 2011, which is what I'm debating. 2012 is too far away to speculate, especally before E3.

Neither Kinect or Move have AA titles? Dance Central is AAA, Sorcery will likely be 80% Plus, Project Dragon (likely a Panzer Dragoon pinoff), Steel Batallion and at least 1 other Kinect tiles will be 80% Plus, with at least 1 being AAA. I mean out of the 6 Kinect games I listed, it's unlikely more then 3 of them will get scores below 8/10.

As for console sales, why is this comming up? It's still 8 to 6 games for fall 2011. I agree with you overall yearly sales will be in favor of PS3, but 360 will catch up this fall, just like it did last.


Dance Central is NOT AAA. A AAA title involves an above the industry average standard budget from the publisher and is expected to have a large following (Which means high risk investment with expectation of high profits). Dance Central is not AAA, the Michael Jackson Experience is not AAA, Just Dance is not AAA. They are casual titles which are cheaper to create and still have a high expectation of profit. The commercials for the titles probably cost more than their development budgets. The game was mostly mo-capped, the dancers did the majority of the work for the animators. A hardcore game is built from the ground up, where-as casual titles on something like the Kinect is mostly mo-capped or have simple animations. This is a breath of fresh air for the big publisher who wants to save money like Activision, THQ, Ubisoft, EA and the other usual notable multiplatform names. The average next gen multiplatform title budget is 20-30 million dollars. High profile AAA titles (The minority) like Modern Warfare, Mass Effect, Uncharted and their Ilk cost around 40-70 million dollars to make because of the amount of developers it takes to make those games, especially when sequels need to be produced at a specific speed (usually two year increments). Ratings don't mean the game is AAA either.  If it doesn't have the budget nor the notable following to be considered AAA, it isn't. Ratings  lower than 8.5 usually hurt the credibility of a AAA title in the eyes of the average reading consumer, but it doesnt change the budget. This is why AAA titles are high risk titles with expectations of high profits.

Read this so you can understand the difference because I dont believe you get it just yet:

http://www.thekoalition.com/2010/09/kinect-and-move-development-is-cheaper-will-game-quality-decline/

Glad thats all cleared up. Now if I can get back to the truth of the matter, the 360 is back at 2 AAA exclusives (Gears 3 and Forza 4) for the year going up against InFamous 2, Uncharted 3, Twisted Metal, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, LBP 2 and The Last Guardian is up in the air between holiday 2011 and early next year. Those are the only AAA exclusives between the PS3 and 360 for the year. The rest are Move/Kinect titles and other exclusives.


It is rumored for sure that two more Sony AAA exclusives will be revealed. One is heavily claimed to be Heavenly Sword 2. Hope Microsoft has something big planned. They have one month left before E3.