Lots of bashing for the belief of God....

[Final-Fan]

1.  I don't understand why oyu refuse to give me sources for that information you claim to have. 

2.  I don't understand what any of what you talked about has to do with American entry into WW2.  AFAIK, we did not enter the war because of the concentration camps, at all.  You have not answered my question about what sort of false pretenses you are talking about.  Do you think Pearl Harbor was deliberately made vulnerable or something? 

Moving on to the authority figures point, you're saying a lot of people follow authority figures even when they tell them to do bad things, because they are used to the stuff they are told to do being good even when it doesn't seem so?  That's an interesting point, and a good one, but I don't think it fully explains the Milgram Experiment. 

I mean, I got this from WIkipedia:  "The subjects believed that for each wrong answer, the learner was receiving actual shocks. In reality, there were no shocks. After the confederate was separated from the subject, the confederate set up a tape recorder integrated with the electro-shock generator, which played pre-recorded sounds for each shock level. After a number of voltage level increases, the actor started to bang on the wall that separated him from the subject. After several times banging on the wall and complaining about his heart condition, all responses by the learner would cease.

"At this point, many people indicated their desire to stop the experiment and check on the learner. Some test subjects paused at 135 volts and began to question the purpose of the experiment. Most continued after being assured that they would not be held responsible. A few subjects began to laugh nervously or exhibit other signs of extreme stress once they heard the screams of pain coming from the learner." 

There's not really any way to spin that as being an acceptable part of a study on memory.  The fact that they were fooled and people weren't really being killed is immaterial to the study.  Some people did manage to resist authority like your electrician, but he was the exception to the rule, probably because of his personal experience with electrical shocks (in his particular case). 

It seems that you agree that morals change over time, so you are not really absolutist.  I think vagabond would agree with me when I say that most people have internalized a basic set of strong morals that are important to our society, but that doesn't mean that the "social good" model of morals isn't being followed just because they are deeply ingrained.