PS3 users are you thinking of switching to a Xbox 360?

[Michael-5]

osamanobama said:

Michael-5 said:

osamanobama said:

Michael-5 said:

 

 

First of all, Forza 3 sold 3.3 million units according to VGC before the Forza 3/Alan Wake bundle was released. It is extremely biased to ignore that. Also after the bundle ended last fall, Forza 3 was still selling 10-15k weekly off hard copies, and still is. This is about 50% as well as GT5, a game one year newer.

Also before Forza 4 comes out, Forza 3 will have crossed 5 million sales. It currently sits at 4.80 million units, and is selling approximatly 10k weekly. That means that in 20 weeks, so long as it sells this well, it will break 5 million. Sales will likely drop over the slower summer months, but by the time holiday sales boost Forza 3 sales, it will have crossed 5 million.

1) Twisted Metal isn't released yet, and my point was not regarding games already released in 2011. I was strictly refering to upcoming games.

Yes PS3 saw more exclusives then 360 in the first 4 months of 2011, but I'm not adressing that. Total exclusives 360 is still probably higher then PS3, do you not remember how few PS3 exclusives there were prior to 2009?

2) People are not excluding Sorcery when they list upcoming PS3 exclusives, but are excluding every single Kinect exclusive. I am only refering to games with an announced release date.

• Heavy Fire: Afghanistan - September 30th
• Project Draco - 2011 for Americas, as said when announced
• Rise of Nightmares - June 2011
• Seseme Street - 2011 for Americas (included as a joke)
• Steel Batallion - 2011 for Americas, as said when announced

Notice how I did not include many other 2011 Kinect titles such as

• Codename D - 2011 for Americas
• Michael Phelps - June 6th
• Wipeout in the Zone - Q3 2011

Nor how I did not include games without confirmed 2011 release dates?

• Haunt (no release date)
• Kinectallons (no release date)

So where am I counting games with no release dates? I counted Uncharted 3, InFamous 2, Resistance 3, Gears 3, and Forza 4 as the only major franchise sales. I did not forget the Move games, nor compose any list excluding those games, I just mentioned that many people here are including Move games, and Twisted Metal, but ignoring major Kinect titles, which makes a very unfair and biased comparision.

Besides, did anyone not know that Playstation Move Heros is already out? Why are people including this game in upcoming PS3 games? The only Move exclusive unreleased title is Sorcery. That's 1 game, which has no announced 2011 release date, so why should I include it on any list?

So what arguement are you bringing? There are no currently announced Move exclusives for 2011. There are 8 confirmed Kinect exclusive 360 titles announced. However, you right, not much is known about Codename D or Wipeout, so excluding those games, that's still 6 good exclusive Kinect games. On a strict number comparision, 360 has more exclusives overall.

I mean just add 360: 6 Kinect games 2 blockbuster games = 8 (and this may be 9 if a Halo remake is confirmed)

PS3: 0 Move games 3 blockbuster games ICO Collection Twisted Metal = 5

3) InFAMOUS is not a sub 2 million seller. its already at 1.95 million

This is a contradiction. InFamous 1 IS sub 2 million. Lifetime it will exceed that, but what I said is not wrong in any way. Please stop attacking me on every single PS3 comment I make (but never supporting my MS comments), and then claiming that I am the biased one.

As for Resistance, 2.15 million is not much above 2 million. Now you're just getting picky, and really have no right no call be biased for this.

4) Twisted Metal started off as an Arcade PSN title. None of the 360 exclusives mentioned began as Arcade titles. They always were full fledged games, many releasing in the peak holiday window. I see no difference from the scale of a new Panzer Dragoon Kinect and a Twisted Metal PSN being made into a console game.

okay most of you points were addressed already so i will make this (somewhat) brief.

your arguement is very illogical.

your including kinect games that had about one e3 trailer last year, revealing little to nothing about the game. we still dont know anything about the games, other than it will be on rails. going as far as they are confirmed for this year. becasue at e3 2010, they had a vague release date of 2011. several move games had the same thing and for some reason your counting them against titles like R3, Uncharted, Twisted Metal, gears, and forza.

i never counted any move games, dont know why you said i am.

Twisted Metal is not an Arcade game, when sony first contracted them it was planned as so, but both  Sony and eat sleep play. loved the game so much they went all out. making a full fledged game. its a huge game content wise. and apparently they want it to be huge, sales wise as well. the arent releasing it in October for no reason..

Forza reached its sales because its priced was slashed a few days after launch, and was bundled like crazy. my arguement was against you saying gears and forza are bigger than UC2, R3, infamous, saying forza is 5 million seller. then defending that by saying it will eventually reach 5 million. but at the same time calling infamous (while implying the series) was sub 2 miilion. but its will very very soon surpase that. so which is it are we factoring in future sales or not. cant have it both ways.

also, you limiting games to the second part of the year is stupid, you just arbitrarly limiting the ps3 games to make it seem as if xbox has similar amount. well i could just say ps3 has way more games after september. and just look at that time frame, but i would make sense. the ps3 has had already about 5 big exclusives release this year, and you just dont want to count them.

ps: know i did not realize any lack of exclusive prior to 2009. ps3 had a ton

oops, that wasnt brief at all.

For confirmed games of 2011, I'm using IGN's website. It doesn't matter if not much is known about Kinect's line-up, Microsoft typically doesn't release as much information about upcoming games as Sony does. If they announced a fall 2011 launch window, then I'll count it in comparision for 2011 upcoing games.

Remember the Last Guardian was a cofirmed August 2010 title, then a 2011 title, and now it's a 2012 title, yet PS3 fans on this site counted it in upcoming games for all 3 years. How many times was GT5 elayed too?

You can whine all you like about a vague 2011 release window all you like, but it's still a 2011 release window, and many games (PS3, 360, Kinect, and Move) will likely get delayed. I mean I expect Resistance 3 to be delayed, but I'm not going to ignore it based off speculation.

Twisted Metal will be a great game, I'm a fan of the franchise. In fact I own all of them except Head On, but if you include a game that started as an arcade game (and from gameplay it still looks like one), you should count every Kinect exclusive for 2011. Simple as that.

When was Forza 3's price slashed? I say the game retail for $60 at Best Buy and EB games while many fall 2009 titles droped to $40. You can speculate all you want, but don't say my arguements are illogical when you do this.

InFamous will surpass 2 million, I never said it won't. When I said Forza and Gears are plus 5 million franchises, they are. Gears 3 and Forza 4 will break 5 million easy. My only point when refering to high profile game sales was that the two 360 titles should outsell the 3 PS3 titles since Resistance and InFamous are probably 2-2.5 million sellers, where Gears 3, Forza 4, and probably UC3 are 5 million plus sellers.

Only reason I limit my debate to 2011 fall is because 2012 and beyond is pretty open to speculation. Strong PS3 fans critisize the 360 in this thread, and I'm just saying the upcming lineup really isn't that different between the two HD consoles.

Off the top of my head the only confirmed titles for after 2012 are The Last Guardian, and 343 Studios did say a Halo every year, so we will likely see one more mainstream 360 Halo, but again thats speculation, and I won't use it in an areguement.

That's just illogical.

As for Pre-2009, there are 37 PS3 exclusives, and 108 360 exclusives. This exclusides timed exclusives like Lost Planet, or Oblivion. Of those 108 pre-2009 360 exclusives, 10 are from 2005, 38 are from 2006, while PS3 only had 3 2006 exclusives. So even if we ignore 360's 2006 linep (since it was on the market for a year longer) it's still 70 360 exclusives compared to 37 PS3 exclusives. Now this list includes everything from Buzz Trivia PS3 exclusives to Ninety ine Nights. So yes 360 had significantly more exclusives pre-2009. If PS3 has a few more now, I don't think it's anything to make a big deal about.