Lots of bashing for the belief of God....

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Allfreedom99 said:

I dont mean to say an atheist is not capable of seeing beauty around them. If I offended or If thats what It seemed I was implying then it was wrong. What I am trying to say is that I dont understand how someone can look into the sky on the darkest night to see a multitude of beautiful stars and think that it all happened through chance of mathematical possibilities. I dont understand how an atheist can look into the eyes of their new born baby and think that it has no significance in this universe whatsoever. I cant understand how an atheist can believe that everything began from a singular point with no intelligent designer behind it. What I am saying is, how can beauty just happen? How is it that we even have math and science to be able to study complex theories? When a total eclipse happens it gives us a rare view of the outer linings of the sun. And I know that an eclipse is not always a full eclipse. How is it that we have color, and our eyes can see in color. I know technically it is the cones in our eyes, but how did colors just happen?  Im saying I see all of these amazing elements and views in our universe and say that I can appreciate its beauty because for an intelligent being to create something so wonderful, that intelligent creator must be incredible.

I understand there is no way to measure "God" with science, because it is something in the supernatural realm. supernatural does not fit into science. What Im saying is that just by looking around you, you will see evidence of design if you allow yourself to.You can believe that everything began from a singular point with no intelligent being involved. But any human mind must see that to have matter effect matter there must be energy to effect that matter. A human mind must realize that energy does not come about from nothing. I know you probably won't, but just stop and think of the theory of in the beginning there was a "singular point", and thats where the universe began. A singular point is used in mathematics, so how would it be that a singular point had the knowledge to just appear and begin the universe?

My last point. Are you familiar with the flagellum in the human body? It is in all senses a organelle of locomotion(motor) that is attached to certain cells in many living organisms. In face some of the most basic living organisms possess these including: algae, fungi, and mosses. The base of it contains a hook like structure that acts just like a propeller and can turn clockwise or counterclockwise. This motor helps to move cells along and keep them in motion to allow for respiration and circulation. The flagellum of these cells is a important component for life.When you see a graph of a flagellum you see everything a motor would possess. Is this not a possibility of design? how can matter,which possesses no intelligence, cause a flagellum motor to form on these cells?

How is it that there are so many complexities that exist and then someone can claim that everything began without any intelligence in existence to begin the universe? As I said earlier an atheist cannot understand my belief, and I cannot understand an atheists.

A baby doesn't have no significance whatsoever, it's very important to the parents after all.  But indeed the universe doesn't care. 

As for beauty happening though mathematical probability, do you not find fractals beautiful?  They are simply visual renditions of mathematical functions. 
And they occur in nature, too. 


As for the beginnings of the universe, people much smarter than both of us are still thinking about that problem.  But I will tell you this:  relying on common sense to tell us what is and isn't possible is a MASSIVE mistake.  Going deep into physics, things get very strange, and RIDICULOUS things happen.  Have you heard of Hawking radiation?  Or heck, here's one you probably have heard of that you can see for yourself:  Heisenberg's uncertainty principle states that you can't simultaneously know the exact position and trajectory of a particle.  If you nail one down too far, the other one becomes more erratic. 


As for the flagellum, you may not be aware of this but biologists have know for some time how it could have evolved without being designed. 
http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/design2/article.html
http://www.talkdesign.org/faqs/flagellum.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdwTwNPyR9w

If you want to give a better try than just throwing up your hands at meeting a different worldview, then the first step is to understand that an atheist's "belief" is very different form yours.  Your belief is faith-based, while an atheist's is simply confidence that people are working their way to understanding the universe and have yet to find any evidence in its workings that requires there to be a god. 

Many people take this a step further; since there is currently no reason to suspect God exists, they think there is probably no evidence in the universe that God exists, and therefore are confident that God doesn't exist.  But this belief is not faith-based, although I suppose there also exist atheists that have a faith-based no-God belief.