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Play4Fun on 07 May 2011
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LordTheNightKnight said:
Play4Fun said:

So because those were big hits of N64 and GC but the consoles still sold less than the others it means they didn't move consoles?(1)

I think you got that from malstrom because he spouts that stuff all the time and you read his blog alot so your mindset reflects it and blah blah blah...(2)

Lots of people got N64 for the Zeldas and lots of people got GC for Mario Sunshine and lots of people got Wii for SMG.(3) They may not sell consoles as much as a 2D Mario but they sell consoles nonetheless.(4)

Also: LOL at TC's icon.


1. Do you even know how many systems the N64 and Gamecube sold? 32 million and 22 million respectively. The NES sold nearly 70 million units, the SNES nearly 50, and the Wii is approaching 90.

If the systems had killer apps, they wouldn't have been that low.

2. Just because he writes it doesn't mean the information isn't there. Again, this site has the numbers that show this is the case. Trying to just go "he's wrong" won't magically change those facts.

3. That's not a counterargument. You have the PROVE they did that, not just claim they did that. You have to show sales around the time those games came out, and that sales spiked for weeks after the games came out. That's what a killer app does.

3. No, the sales of the systems that had just them show that "not... as much" is actually "far less". There's a difference between buying a system for an app and being a killer app.

1. It doesn't matter how many systems N64 and GC sold. They would have sold   less if they didn't have games like Zelda OOT $ MM  and Mario kart and Mario Sunshine.  Those games sold systems.

2. Where did I say Malstrom is 'wrong'? For every sensible article he writes, he writes another BS article. The man says as much nonsense as he makes good points and he got worse through-out the generation.

3. So a game has to make sales spike for weeks to be worthy of being called a game that moves consoles? Being a game through-its life cycle that convinces people to buy the console doesn't make it a game that sells systems? For alot of people seeing Mario Kart, SMG 1&2 and Zelda TP on Wii's library convinced them buy a Wii, yes? So how do those games not sell consoles?

3(2). I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

What I'm trying to say is contrary to what you believe (because of Malstrom >=) ) those games help the systems. I don't see why a game has to spike up the hardware sales charts on release or sell $20 M to be worthy of a game that sells systems. 

3D Mario, Zelda and mario kart sold Wiis just like  Wii Sports , Wii Fit and Classic Mario sold Wiis. They do it to varying degrees and probably to different demographics but they do it nonethless so I don't see how you can say they didn't help the system.