DélioPT said:
vlad321 said:
DélioPT said:
vlad321 said:
No. Just no. What I have done is PERFECTLY valid, because everything I have done is on your rules of spirituality, your rules of how I need to close my eyes and "feel" what's out there. The whole point of my argument is that what I made up is EXACTLY like what you believe in, yet completely different.
I also told you that there is PLENTY of empirical evidence that someone back in those days woudl cheat and lie, and how there is empirical evidence women just don't get pregnant by themselves. So you are wrong here, too. I know the whole story, and the part you have that you say is missing I am not, faith says CB is flawless, so even spiritually I have "evidence" in my corner.
FInally let me put it this way. The only way you can stop being insulting is by stoppping to imply that Mary is a virgin, meaning you have to stop saying you are on the right path. The opposite is true for you not to be insulted by me, obviously.
Lastly, that last part you quoted is kind of absolutely hilarious. They wanted to stone Magdelene for a laughably unsuitable crime. I wonder whether he would have said the same thing had they just sentened her to be called a whore by everyone around. What woudl Jesus have said? "Let those who have not whored throw the first word?"
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Actually no you haven`t. You may have all the pieces together but that just doesn`t cut it. You made up a system when others haven`t; you made up a system solely to end all critics to your points of view and Christianity doesn`t do that. You even created something that exists to end free speech - or that part just applies to others and not you? Not even remotely the same.
"there is empirical evidence women just don't get pregnant by themselves" Did you achieve complete knowledge by now? If i recall, reality is always the same, but theories change, so your knowledge doesn`t allow you to say that in no way Mary couldn`t have been impregnated by the Holy Spirit. More, don`t confuse what you don`t believe in with no proof to be so, since you really can`t say that it isn`t.
So you don`t believe in the Bible as a whole but when it comes to backing a statement, then usable as proof to something. If you don`t believe then you should had as much as consideration for one thing, as for another.
Are you forgetting that the same kind of tricks you use anyone could use back at you. If someone would come here and say that any word you write or speak is an offense, what would you do? If you replied you would already be insulting.
But that kind of action is just absurd and dishonest.
Don`t treat the "if" like it`s a "is".
No, "He who has no sins, may he cast (at her) the first stone." still applies. Don´t condemn the sinner, just the sin.
Honestly, do you really think you will achieve something of this "make up" position you have put yourself into?
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The only problem with a made up system is if its method of construction method is the same te same. My belief is no more made up than your belief. If mine is made up so is yours, if yours is not then mine isn't either. That's just how it works, unless you have more concrete evidence in your beliefs.
I don't think you realize that absolutely anything you say against my belief can be used against yours. Anything, literally anything, including the whole insults part. The problem arises from the fact that my believes thinks yours are insulting, and vice versa.
Honestly, do you really think you will achieve something of this "christianity" position you have put yourself into?
P.S. Maybe if I give my belief a name it would be more valid.
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Thing is you said it yourself it`s made up. About other religions, you can`t prove it is made up. That`s the difference you created all by yourself.
The belief you say you have, you also say it`s made up, as in, not true. Others don`t say that because they don`t feel it is true, in fact they feel something, while you sincerely don`t.
"Honestly, do you really think you will achieve something of this "christianity" position you have put yourself into?"
You can`t prove it, can you? But you are proof of your made ups, so to speak.
"I don't think you realize that absolutely anything you say against my belief can be used against yours. Anything, literally anything, including the whole insults part. The problem arises from the fact that my believes thinks yours are insulting, and vice versa."
That was my point. And you get what of this, that it`s ok to be the way you want?
If you keep this attitude there`s really no point of continuing the conversation because you will keep making up things just for the sake of it. Why you do this is beyond reason.
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