Which is better Red Dead Redemption or Grand Theft Auto IV?

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radiantshadow92 said:

thranx said:

radiantshadow92 said:

TeddostheFireKing said:

radiantshadow92 said:

red dead, but the ending still sucked balls

did you unlock the real ending? because I thought it was great, sad, but great

there is only one ending lol...and after missions which i did complete. It sucked

*spoileralert*

Technically yes, but for me I was at least fooled, I thought I had finished the game, but I did not. i didn't know you get to avenge your fathers death. (Play as Marstons son)

*spoileralert*

They could have found a better reason for him to die -_-..he died for nothing

 

* Spoilers *

One of the themes of the game, in line with films like The Wild Bunch or Unforgiven, was the end of the old Wild West and the transition to modern times.  That's why he died the way he did.  It was a bitter end but underlined the sense that he was a relic from another time and that he was killed (in the game literally) by the forces of change representing the new future.

I thought it was a good ending and I was glad - even if like all Rockstar games pretty much all the themes/plot points/missions are "borrowed" from films rather than original - that the game had the guyt to end like that and stick to its underlying themes.  Certainly most developers would have chickened out and allowed John to live.

For John to live would undermine the whole mood and theme established right up front in the openning intro cut scene.

The coda somewhat cheats as it allows players revenge and threatens to undermine the very themes I've mentioned (and John's own death) but it makes sense at the same time so no major damage to the overall narrative was done.

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