DélioPT said:
vlad321 said:
DélioPT said:
vlad321 said:
They don't obey the same explanatoinal patterns, they all obey the same spiritual feeling, sight, and faith. If just one of them is wrong based on faith, then all of them are wrong. Since one can't be right without the others being wrong, you run into a problem.
I am not using ANY tangible way of observation. I am only using my spirituality to feel these beliefs. The only way out of this dilemma is if you admit that somehow your spirituality is better than mine. However that means that you are degrading, insulting by your definition, my spirituality so you could feel better about your beliefs.
In the end, I have caught you in a trap on your own terms and your own rules.
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Actually your problem is that you consider everything on the same levell to be wrong or equally wrong. And that is where you fail. Why are they all wrong and not one right. It`s a necessity that if one is wrong, they are all wrong.
You don`t know who`s actually wrong or right for yourself because you don`t have absolute knowledge and that´s where reason falls. You just don`t know everything about everything.
If i say i am on the right path why is that insulting? If a another person from another religion says that to me i won`t be insulted as there is no reason for being insulted, if said person goes on and goes on making personnal judgements on what others believe than that can be an insult or offensive.
I respect and have tolerance for people who say, as me, that they believe they are on the right path. It`s their right to express their beliefs and that`s no insulting anyone.
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Yes, one of items in the infinite set is right. However we cannot determine which one is right simply by using our spiritual faith. Given solely spiritual faith, they are all wrong. Now it is possible some beliefs have other things going for them which we don't know of yet, spiritual or physical. Given only spiritual faith everything in the set has exactly the same chance of being right. That means any belief has the chance of 1 out of inifnity of being right. That's effectively zero, and you have an inifnitely larger chance of winning any lottery on earth, even all of them at the same time, than choosing the right belief.
Also when you say you are on the right path when we talk about spirituality, that means you think that I am wrong, that my spiritual faith is wrong. Given than my spiritual faith, my religion, says that Mary is a whore (if you remember, Cosmic Being said so) you felt insulted. That isn't a personal judgement, it's jsut my religion. Me being on the right path means Mary is a cunning adulterer. Yet here in plain english you said "If a another person from another religion says that to me i won`t be insulted as there is no reason for being insulted." Yet you went on and on and on about how that's insulting. This is hypocrisy at its finest.
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Rationally you can use the 1 out if infinity, as rationally it is limited on proof ig the given starting premise is equal to all. But that doesn`t mean nothing per se. God exists or He doesn`t, there`s no other way around this.
Something either is or isn`t.
You can`t make a claim like they are all wrong without proof.
The wrong part is a statement that i avoid to not offend anyone as it isn`t needed to be used. It`s like saying i like cola and someone says they like pepsi. I`m not in the position to say that x is better than y, because it`s not a question that this is better than that. It`s a choice people make and for others to respect.
If a jew or a muslim says that, as me, they believe they are on the right path i won`t be insulted and virce-versa.
What you are neglecting is that i made no personnal judgment on any belief, nor have i offended their beliefs or someone they hold dear to them because of their religion. Yet, you did that. You insulted someone, i never did that.
You don`t go on calling people names.
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I can make a claim they are all wrong. I created them such that they are all wrong without proof. Every belief in the set I created is exclusive, and my spirituality is not enough to tell me which one is correct and which one is not. No one's spirituality is, unless they claim theirs is superior.
That's the point though. All I am claiming is that the belief I formed from my spiritual faith states that CB exists. Incidentally, CB states that Mary is a liar. I am now telling you that I believe I am on the right path, yet you feel insulted. Hypocrisy.
