Lots of bashing for the belief of God....

[vlad321]

Joelcool7 said:

vlad321 said:

Joelcool7 said:

Sapphi not trying to be offensive but this is what I was talking about. Your stereotyping creationism. Creationism is not a single theory that earth was made in seven physical days, like many uneducated Athiests believe. Their are over 12- different creationist theories from protestant Christian scientists that I have heard of not to mention the many theories from scientists around the world.

Creationism is a science based theology just like Evolution. Infact some creationist theories even include Macro Evolution and many include Micro Evolution things we are taught in school. Its highly ignorant to judge all theories but Darwinian evolution as un-scientific.

Plus right in your post you say that theology has no place in school, then why should the theory of Macro Evolution , Big Bang, Abiogenesis? None of those three theories are anymore scientific then the many Creationist theories. None of the three are scientific fact, all of them and infact all the methods of creation I was taught in school all of them were theories.

If theology has no place in schools then no theories at all should be taught. Leave the guessing and faith out of our schools. I agree whole heartedly that nothing un-factual should be taught in school unless it is in a theology course which give all faith based theories equal attention.

So yes your right evolution (Other then Micro) should be kept out of our schools. Theories have no place in the classroom!

I have mentioned this many timesin this thread, however any creationist theory is guaranteed to be wrong, just because there is no evidence for it. For further explanation I outlined how any idea that pertains to the creation of existance is wrong, including the atheist one.

People come up with these ideas because they don't want to realize that humanity is absolutely isignificant in the grand scheme of things (really, we are) and want to make themselves feel better by trying to explain existance. Then they, laughably, think that the more people believe their idea, the more correct they are. That is utterly laughable.

The truth is, we don't know shit about the actual creatoin (we do have evidence for the Big Bang and Evolution though, and they aren't actual creation) and anyone with an idea about what happened is wrong, regardless of belief.

I agree that we know shit about how the earth was created. I have faith in an intelligent designer or more specifically Jesus (Trinity) God. However I can't scientifically prove my beliefs anymore then anyone else can.

As for more scientific evidence for the Big Bang or Evolution theories. Evolution is a broad statement for many theories and even some facts. However while Micro Evolution is proven fact, Macro remains and un-proven theory. Just like the collider tunnel that scientists are using to prove the Big Bang, without human interferance it is highly unlikely such an event could take place. Very little solid evidence can prove that life could have come from a big bang and abiogensis.

My post to Sapphi outlines your statements perfectly. None of us can prove our theories. While you may have found apparent flaws in some of the creation theories their are several flaws in many evolution theories.

So no one can explain creation, we can make educated guesses like creationists and evolutionists do all the time. But we can never prove one is right and one is wrong. As such I agree with Sapphi schools shouldn't teach any theories in our schools unless it is done so in a theology class.

School's are raising a bunch of dumb asses, if the student goes to a Christian school they don't learn much about evolution, if they go to a public school they don't learn anything but a few select evolution theories. Either way your going to churn out ignorant people. So in my opinion both systems are wrong and no theology should be taught at all. If schools want to teach theology they should make it abundantly clear to students "These are scientific theories not scientific facts" taught in a theology class to drive home that fact for students. then maybe their would be less dumbies out their!

Except that there is more evidence pointing at evolution and big bang than there is at god. I also haven't "found" any flaws in creatoin theories, because creation theories have no evidence to find flaws in in the first place. The factthere is no evidence is the biggest flaw in and of itself. No evidence means wrong. Furthermore it is NOT an "educated guess" if there is no evidence backing it up. Educated guess means there is knowledge that exists to back up the guess. God has zero evidence going for him, therefore christians are just plain wrong, as is absolutely any belief that factors in some form of a sentient being. Atheists have zero evidence that some force/being that is sentient had no hand in creation, and therefore they are wrong.

That said, there is plenty of evidence that evolution exists in some form, and that should be taught in school, and just that. If we have evidence for it, the evidence should be taught. Did you know that it's thought that women are evolving to be shorter and stouter? Something about child bearing and stuff.

As it currently stands, what comes out of the mouths of people when they talk about the actual creation is worth less than what comes out of their asses after they went to Taco Bell. I don't even understand why people even BOTHER talking about that shit, instead of just talking about the current evidence. As it stands, christinas are wrong, atheists are wrong, muslims and jews too. Hindus are wrong, deists, agnostics, greeks, norsemen, egyptians, whatever you can name that has no evidence backing it up, is just plain wrong.