1. I think there is a contradiction going on, or at least I want to nail down which of two contradictory cases is true in your opinion. The following assumes you go to either Heaven or Hell with no third option, so please correct me if you are now saying there's a third option.
A. You go to Heaven unless you make the active choice of rejecting God. You KNOW God is real, you just hate him or can't handle the fact of his existence or whatever.*
B. You go to Hell unless you make the active choice of taking a "leap of faith" and believing in God even though you have no sufficient worldly justification for believing God exists.
* And by the way, I'm not saying you're guilty of this, but a lot of people go around saying that atheists know in their hearts that God is real and they can't stand it so they reject him. Well fuck those guys, they don't know what's in my heart. I don't think there's good reason for me to believe God is really out there instead of being something imagined by our ancestors (like the four elements) and perpetuated by culture and tradition.
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"I would argue that you can't absolve someone of deliberately setting up horrible actions just because there was someone else with free will further down the line."
"I mean, I doubt Hitler personally murdered any Jews, and if he did it wasn't many; does that mean he bears no responsibility for the Holocaust? "
Let's say Guy A sets up a situation that he knows for a fact will result in Guy B killing Guy C. Would you say that Guy A bears responsibility for Guy C's death, or that he is blameless?
Tag (courtesy of fkusumot): "Please feel free -- nay, I encourage you -- to offer rebuttal."
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My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Sen. Pat Moynihan
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I have the most epic death scene ever in VGChartz Mafia. Thanks WordsofWisdom!
