DélioPT said:
vlad321 said:
No you are just plain wrong. Blind faith is believing in something even when there is evidence to the contrary. Overwhelming evidence. There is overwhelming evidence that Mary comitted adultery and lie to cover her ass, and zero that she was impreganeted by god. What you ave is pure blind faith, and blind faith in any context is idiotic exactly BECAUSE it evades any evidence. As I said, that is true for any blind faith, whatever it is in, even science.
I mean look at yourself, you can't even go one argument without using the crutch of blind faith. There is plenty you can go by in religion which doesn't have a huge amount of evidence against it.
ALso you are also wrong on how you describe love. Did you know that it has been shown that when two people break up, who love each other, the brain has the exact same activity as if the person is suffering from cocaine withdrawal? Did you also know that love gives you that love feeling is actualy dopamine? Do you realize is that the feeling of happiness is actually just a state of low -level, but consistent, pleasure? Don't bother wading into this argument, because I have plenty of evidence to back me up, and you have nothing. Just like the whole argument whether Mary slept around or not.
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All the evidence you talk about is nothing more than what your senses give you. It`s you who neglects it`s own spiritual side.
You said she lied? Prove it without a doubt that she lied. As i said before, reason and science are constrained tools, they can`t aprehend everything. The zero evidence you are refering too is the part of the Bible that mentions and all the apparitions where that is shown, but since you couldn`t witness it, it`s just made up lies, right?
You know that aswell. There was life before reason and science. Don`t submit life to flawed tools that can`t by definition step out of their fields to see if there`s anything more.
The reason why i use faith so much it´s because it`s part of the religion/God context. More, it`s felt and lived, therefore proof - just not to reason and science.
You do have plently of evidence to show how the body interacts with the spirit. But if you only use science to undestand feelings, you`ll just explain the "how" and not the "why".
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All that my senses tell me? This sounds vaguely familiar, I think I heard it in a 1999 movie, I wonder which one it was.... I also like how the bible covers its ass on blind faith. "Yeah, this is correct because...... we say it is correct."
Also the whole falt and lived part is absolutely bullshit. I want you to make a good argument, and I honestly mean good, as to why unicorns don't exist but your appartions do. What you say goes true for ANY belief.
Me? As I said earlier in the thread, I think there's a Cosmic Being, who one day went to the Cosmic Taco Bell after a Cosmic Party of absolutely ridiculous amount of Comsic Beer was consumed. As is the usual with Cosmic Taco Bell, he ended up on the toilet and by accident he shit out our universe. Just like you and me, he doesn't give a damn about what he shit out of himself, so he just flushed it down the toilet. That is what I see when I close my eyes, and what I feel with my spiritual self. Oh, my spiritual sense also says that the Comic Being says that your belief in your god is wrong beyond any reasonable doubt, and Mary is an adulterer and a cheater. It also says you should believe in that specific Cosmic Being.
There you go, you have just opened up my spiritual part, and now I have faith and belief too. My newfound spiritual/religious self also says you are wrong. What are you going to do now?
