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irstupid on 03 May 2011
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theprof00 said:
irstupid said:
theprof00 said:
Grimes said:
makingmusic476 said:

This wasn't a second attack.  This was part of the first attack, only it wasn't until yesterday that SOE had become aware that they had also been hit.

Also, I'm not sure why people are giving Sony so much shit over this.  The attack was so severe the FBI and Homeland Security have gotten involved.  You're going to stop buying their products because some really damn good hackers decided Sony was their next target?


From what I've read, the intrusions were through an existing vulnerability that wasn't patched. It may have not taken "damn good hackers" as you call it, but merely criminals who took advantage of poor maintenance.

An existing vulnerability in the movie mission impossible was a person flying to another building and rapelling down a room's height. to activate a terminal within a 15 minute time frame.

 

I kid, I kid. Just don't infer anything more from "existing vulnerablity", other than they knew about the vulnerability.  

no it would be like if in the second death star they made an air duct the same as the first death star.  Sony KNEW of the flaw and had not fixed it.  Its their own dumb fault for getting thier death star blown up again

No one's refuting that point. I agree.

I'm responding to the bolded (which I just bolded). Just because something has a known vulnerablity, it doesn't mean just anyone can get the info, and it doesn't even mean that good hackers can get the info.

I'm just saying that "known vulnerability" implies nothing more than the words themselves. It is a vulnerability that is known. Just because something is described as "outdated" and "vulnerable", it doesn't relate to anything more than equal opposite force.

Like your example, the Death Star has that tunnel because the core needs to have ventilation. It must exist. What they can do, is put turrets all around it, and make it near impossible to get at. However, every once in a while a superhero is able to break in and wreck house. Understand? The builders knew the vulnerability was there, but did not expect a a hero with a Darth Vader level of force ability would do that.

Again, I'm not saying a superhuman did the hack. I'm saying "known vulnerability" can just as much imply superhuman efforts, as toddler effort. Let's not let "partisan biases" morph this story into a series of exaggerations.

well that vent, all they had to do was put up a few random bars in the tunnel, or have it turn once in a while.

so even if they get past all the turrets and what not else that made it SEEMINGLY IMPOSSIBLE to get to, there is still a fail safe in teh end of the missile hitting bars or the vent shaft turning so it hits a wall.

if sony knw of a potential vulnerability, they can as you said make it damn near impossible to get to, but nothing is impossible.  BUT THEN have a fail safe, such as ENCRYPTING the data.  If my memory serves correct, wasn't the data all just sitting there in non-encrypted form?