Lots of bashing for the belief of God....

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DélioPT said:

@Scoobes

1. Blackmail? Doesn`t blackmail force you to go down one route for the sake of the one that is blackmailing? In religion, all his given to people for their own decisions and their own hapiness aswell.
How can even something like that even be seriously considered when Jesus died for our sins so we can have salvation? Doesn`t that show how loving God is - even if you don`t believe.
Thing is, one could say that if you are good, love and caring, aren`t you really on God`s side? But there also needs to be the recognition that He is the reason for all.
No benevolence? Only if you are already dead, cause till the very last breath you can find salvation. It`s not a lack of goodness. Who`s talking about having more or less morals? It`s about God`s ways, not morals.

When you're blackmailed, you still have the choice to ignore the blackmailer, however, they'll punish you for it, so it's exactly like blackmail. You have the choice to ignore god and his/her apparent "rules", but if you do you'll be punished. Furthermore, if god is all powerful, why does any god require recognition for reward? Why should any god be that egotistical? You also imply that you can be immoral, but if you believe in god then he will accept and reward you but a moral person can be punished just for not believing? You don't see how this is egotistical and how a bully/dictator functions?

As I said, I see no benevolence in this attitude. Only blackmail, fear mongering and malice.

2. Actually no. More than once i saw people claiming that even them thought they were gay, live in a gay "world" (his words not mine) for years only to find out that they weren`t gay at all.
I don`t remember homosexuality being in the Bible.
"Being dictated" is an expression that doesn`t encompass faith. God doesn`t force anyone to believe nor would He want anyone to be forced to. People open up themselves to God not because how pretty the ethical system or to play safe because in the end it woudn`t cut it, but because they feel Him in their hearts.

No he doesn't "force" anyone to believe, he apparently (according to your version of faith) blackmails people to follow instead. Maybe followers do "feel" something of god or spirituality and that's fine. It's your interpretation of faith that I find difficult to comprehend, because whilst you say "being dictated" doesn't encompass faith, your description when you get down to the crux of it is more like an egotistical, blackmailing dictatorship. You can try and soften it by using words such as "love", but if there was truly love their then it wouldn't matter what you believed. A mother/father who loves their child unconditionally will accept them no matter what they've done. Why wouldn't a god?  

Anyway, their is a significant body of literature that shows a significant genetic and hormonal link to homosexuality. Their are contributing environmental factors, but I'll take the current scientific literature to the observations of any single person in their everyday life. Also, if it's not in the bible, why are you aginast it?

Faith is a gift that people receive when they open their hearts to God. If you don`t open, or at least even try to, then you are pretty much saying that you don`t want Him. It`s the same with love. If you don`t open yourself to someone like a friend or a lover you are rejecting what he/she has to offer you, so why resent the consequences? If you don`t give, what do you expect to recieve?

Again, I have difficulty understanding this view. In my view, you can follow religious rules all you want but it doesn't actually equate to faith or spirituality. All it shows is that you can follow rules laid out by a book written by humans thousands of years ago. All my spiritual experiences have had nothing to do with a belief in any god.