Athens or Sparta?

[Helios]

Copycon said:

Helios said:
A hard bent, totalitarian monarchy vs the origin of western democracy, science and philosophy? Well, given how useless the average ‘free’ human of our modern society is, and the fact that the Spartans beat the shit out of the Athenians, I have to side with... The Romans.

"Mama-mia!"

Oh, sorry, I'm just too much of a fan of the Romans not to mention them (they won out in the end, you know). Besides, I thought the rest of my post adequately explained what I thought of the two largest Greek city-states before the Peloponesian War, so I think I was entiteled to that little jest.