Lots of bashing for the belief of God....

[vlad321]

pizzahut451 said:

vlad321 said:

pizzahut451 said:

vlad321 said:

pizzahut451 said:

vlad321 said:

DélioPT said:

No, it`s because it contains the words from God and Jesus, along with his life. And that is defining to those who believe. That`s why we call it sacred and not just very important or very meaningful.

Ok and King Arthur contains the words of Arthur and Lancelot and Merlin, among a bunch of others. Why isn't that sacred?

Because its made up by man. And people believe New Testament are the words of son of God .A God or higher power is something people believed in ever since their brain was developed enough to think. It all comes own to fatih, after all (weather you believe God is made up by man or higher power really exists)

Why is it made up, yet the bible isn't? I can also say the EXACT SAME thing about the New Testament, it's all made up. Whatever defense you apply to the bible right there, I can apply to king Arthur as well.

Also, ever since a brain was developed people have desired to find patterns, and understanding, of how nature acts. Given the primitive nature of people at that point, the only thing they could imagine is a higher diety. Now that we can actually observe and create pretty good models for many things in nature, we no longer need such an ignorant way of describing the world.

What exaclty is false about New Testament? Did you even read it? Stories like Jesus's resurection, I can see why peole find it doubtfull but the point of the New Testament are the teachings of christ and the morals of Christianity. Some stories in the Bible usually have a moral message, but they dont nececarly have to be true. Its the moral message that comes out of it that matters. Stuff like ''walking on water'' or ''truning water into wine'' are just symbolics and dont really matter if they are true or not. Its the God's word that matters. There is also historical evidence for the existance of Christ. As far as i know there is no evidence for Lancelot and Merlin, is there?  So Bible holds a lot more historical credit and value than King Arthur.

 

Then why do you give a shit about the bible and not just create your own morals. Morals based on logic and practicallity, not based on fear of an asshole god who will send you to hell if you don't follow his rules? If you admit that a lot of the things in the bible are bullshit, why can't you believe the others are as well? Why do you need untruths to tell you what you should think, when you can observe the world with your own two eyes and ears?

There is also historical evidence for the existance of a King Arthur. I am sure he may have had some knight named Lacelot and an advisor named Merlin. SO no, the bible has jsut as much validity as King Arthur. I may be mistaken, but Robin Hood may have been based on a real band of robbers too, I'll have to look into that.

Edit: Also feeding a huge group with one fish and bread. I will admit one thing that I have gathered from the bible, Jesus had an amazing sleigh of hand.

Edit 2: You are also basically stating that people who don't believe in god have no morals. Yet I dare you to go to a prison, and tell me just how disproportionate the amount of people who believe in a god are vs those who don't.

Wow, you finally showed your true colors. Nice. Im suprised it took you this long to snap tho. I follow Christ's morals because I think they are right. I believe Christ was the only person that was without sin on this planet, (as Bible tells us) and that is why I follow him. And I sure as hell dont follow him out of fear. Dont use that judgemental and generalazing crap on me. I never once admited things i Bible are bullshit, stop puting words in my mouth , and please use diffrent kind of language when discussing this matter. You completly missed my point on my entire post. I argued for the point and purpose of the New Testament, and that some of the stories there didnt have to happen in real life to be taken in consideration. The moral than comes out of it matters. The problem is, you see New Testament as the describtion of the religon itself, I see it as the book that shows us the way of living your life as a Christian. Christianity isnt about turning water into wine or Jesus walking on water, its about his teachings he preached upon the world. And THAT is what matters. 

And do you care to show us that evidence?  Arthur and his wizard Merlin exist in medievil poems and stories, folklore and literary invention where they fight dragons and unnatural monsters and enemies.  Unlike Jesus Christ who exists in actual files of human hisotry,  so much for that. I wont even dignify Robbin Hood with an answer...

 

I didn't realize I was hiding the fact I think any religion is full of bullshit and falseties. In fact I am fairly sure I wrote in one of my posts that all religions are wrong (read: bullshit).

No matter how you define any religion (do you honestly think christinity is the only one that spouts about teachings and crap?) the argument remains. Why are those teachings better than others? What gives any validity of those teachings over any other teachings, from any religion or book ever written by humans?

As for king arthur, I think there is even a wikipedia entry about it with a whole bunch of evidence of how the story is based on some person or another. I just got my information from National Geographic.