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Ferryarthur said:

Or those people are shooting themselves in the foot by using a feature the wrong way, the piracy lovers are only making it worse for the TRUE homebrew people. They took it too far, and this is the result. This is something that goes both ways.

Sony: security failure/feature                  =    hackers: Hacking Skilzz going too far.

Sony: fear of piracy/hacks                         =  hackers: making piracy and hacking possible!

You can't have Sony's problems without the hackers, remove them and Sony's problems disappear. Hackers staying within bounds = keeping OtherOs, but its too late for that now. I feel bad for the people who just wanted their OtherOs function for something that didn't compromise any other party.

If your neighbour fires rockets at me, I'm going to bomb your entire street. It's not my fault, it's his fault!

These "hackers" don't excuse Sony's heavy-handed and ILLEGAL actions, actions that punish everyone.

And It could be just my eyes getting old, but I seem to see Sony gaining a bigger market share again. Despite their customer rights infringement.

That's because PS3s are cheaper now

And how many of those ''honest'' gamers are really that honest? A lot of them, if not almost all of them are doing way worse things to other companies and gamers. Most ''honest'' gamers don't care about the OtherOS or actually agree with nullifying it, lets be honest here, how many people actually knew it existed before it got removed?

Did you just imply that stupid=honest?

Everyone who isn't an idiot knew about Linux on PS3, and there was a significant community using it. Just because YOU and your friends didn't use it, doesn't mean no-one did, and doesn't mean that the ones who did use it don't matter.

The problem with these kind of things is that people only see the bad side of stuff, they removed a small function of the ps3, but people don't see the stuff they got for free AFTER buying their product. They nag more about a single feature being removed, than a bunch of new ones being put in.

They nag about a feature they paid for.

I if steal something from you and then give you some free stuff, would that be OK? You can't nullify for a crime by handing out free stuff afterwards.

If sony needs to pay someone for removing a feature, then should they pay for getting new ones?

Fine. Sony would be well withing their rights to do that.

The new one wasn't mentioned when they bought their ps3 either right, so Sony could just charge for it right? When the old ones are removed, aswell as when knew ones are putting in, you have to agree to the new users terms of the update. You can also choose to not agree to them and keep your OtherOS and old features, with the cost of not being to able to play the newest games.

A console has to be capable of playing any game designed for it. A PS3 is sold on the understanding that it will be able to play PS3 games.

Btw, did the mention of the OtherOS by sony include the promise that they could play the latest games without losing the OtherOS? Yes I agree it seems natural, but you should always doublecheck that before getting ripped of by a loophole.

It's implied unless they expressly stated otherwise. Don't try to shift the burden of explanation.

People should really give the big three a break sometimes, they're not perfect, everyone can make a mistake. But instead of console wars we are getting the nag and sue wars. I actually like the console wars better, at least it made me lol sometimes.

Everyone can make a mistake. Not everyone breaks the law.