WW UP 19th April

[XanderZane]

CGI-Quality said:

XanderZane said:

CGI-Quality said:

XanderZane said:

CGI-Quality said:

Both will probably get further bundles (though GT's may be more extensive and have a larger impact). I can't imagine the final numbers being much more for either though (10.5mill tops for GT5/11.2mill tops for Reach).

GT5 isn't going to reach 10 million. It might get bundled again for the holidays, but the chances are still very slim it will reach 10 million. If it doesn't get bundled, it will never reach 10 million.

Really? What's the indicator that confirms it's chances are very slim? We already mentioned bundles, so that's not something new (in fact, most games that hit 10 million are bundled at some point or another - except for rare occassions such as CoD/Wii Fit).

Regardless, why are GT5's chances slim even with bundles? I'm curious.

Just look at the world wide numbers and how much is currently being sold in each region. It's continuing to drop each week until it's down to about 2000 or less a week worldwide. You guys are looking at GT4 and GT3 numbers and thinking GT5 can do the same, but at the  time GT3 and GT4 were selling decent numbers there were almost twice the number of PS2 in gamers homes. Once GT6 is released, GT5 will be an after thought. GT6 won't take 5 years to complete. They will just use GT5 engine and data and add to it.

You're also not factoring in how much GT5 is ahead of GT4 (nobody mentioned GT3, so I'm not sure why you are, as we don't have full data for it). GT5 is ahead of GT4 in total WW by over 340k in the same time frame. Yes, it's behind GT4 weekly because of when it launched, it's more front-loaded than GT4, but to completely lose that WW lead, it would have to drop to near nothing all year. We can speculate with good reason that such a situation won't happen if you factor in holiday #2, price cuts, and/or bundles.

Also, if this gen has proven anything, it's that console user-base doesn't determine what something will/won't sell in conjunction to previous user-bases (looking at God of War III & Metal Gear Solid 4 vs God of War & Metal Gear Solid 2 for examples).

Your GT6 references are all speculation and irrelevant to the current scenario.

It's behind GT4 because there are less PS3 sold on the market. GT6 will probably be out next year. I doubt very much GT5 will be anywhere near 10 million by the time GT6 is released. Most gamers aren't going to jump back to GT5 if GT6 is a superior game (which it probably will be). Stop trying to base sales from what previous games did. You are completely forgetting about the economy, the recent disasters, that millions of jobless people in the world and the user base of the PS3. All of that will play a factor. Talk to me again next year at this time and we can review the numbers again.