The new system rumors are too fanboyish to be believable

[zarx]

Kasz216 said:

zarx said:

Kasz216 said:

Wii 2 going with Blu-ray does sound incredibly stupid.

I mean, Nintendo ALWAYS ends up making their own proprietary format for games because they don't want to pay royalties on it.  They usually buy a failed disc or something similar.

The rest i could see.

when have they used a failed disc, ever? 

GCN used a mini DVD bassed disc and Wii used a DVD bassed disc and before that they used carts, a Blu-ray bassed disc format doesn't seem unlikely at all. No one as far as I know has said it would play Blu-ray movies so they are not going to be paying sony anything by using their own formating on a disc that uses the same manufacturing process and a disc drive that uses a Blu diode nether of which Sony owns a stake in as far as I know and it would fit into their past trend of using the current disc tech (to lower costs) with their own format so as to avoid licensing costs...

I thought they bought the GCN mini DVD tech off someone.  While the Wii DVD disc was in fact the GCN technology put on a disc.

They commissioned Panasonic to create a a disc format for the NGC Panasonic used miniDVD as a base and added something called a burst cutting area

"Each Nintendo optical disc contains a burst cutting area (BCA) mark, a type of barcode that is written to the disc with a YAG laser. Another example of DVD-like media with BCA marks is the discontinued DIVX format.

A BCA mark is visible to the naked eye. It should not be confused with the IFPI mark that is on all optical discs. BCA is described in Annex K of the physical specification, and can be seen between radius 22.3±0.4 mm and 23.5±0.5 mm."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_optical_disc

to prevent the discs from being used in other systems and stop standard miniDVD discs being used to copy games in every other way it's an ordinary miniDVD. The Wii discs are just scaled up from that, there was even a Japanese Wii that had DVD playback capabilities and I belive there was some custom firmware that allowed DVD playback but I am not sure on that one. 

I would assume that they would do the same for their next console and Blu-ray is common enough now for it to make sense. 

scottie said:

People have been saying 'Blu Ray', not 'a Blu Ray based disc format'. People ARE saying that the Wii2 will be capable of playing Blu Ray movies, and that Nintendo will be forced to pay royalties, some fraction of which will go to Sony. You are correct that the latter is quite plausible (I personally think a HD-DVD format is also quite likely). 

I would assume that is because they don't have full access to the hard specs or aren't technically minded so they just know it has a Blu diode reader and the discs are just like standard Blu-rays etc. And it is possible that the early devkits have a standard Blu-ray player/discs because the custom format isn't ready yet. 

Could you link to reliable sites/sources that are reporting that it can play movies?

HD-DVD makes zero sense IMO they might as well just make their own format from scratch, the advantage of basing the format on an existing popular format is that you can use existing tech  and production to lower costs, HD-DVD is no longer produced so you don't get that advantage.