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Tony_Stark said:
scottie said:

 

No No and no. The studies you have quoted use per capita figures, which are very misleading since the average person does not emit a lot of carbon. Businesses do, The US has FAR more big carbon emitting inductrial businesses per capita than China, which is why China seems to have such a small amount in comparison. In reality, China's industrial businesses produce more carbon than thier US counterparts.

"Facts are - in order to develop a country quickly, the fastest way involves doing exactly what China is doing now, what Russia did around 1920's-1930's."

Expound please.

Lastly, Having more money means people buy cleaner products that pollute less, to use your example, people that buy new cars on a regular basis are lowering their carbon output on a regular basis due to newer cars getting better mileage, and having better emission control systems.

 

At any rate, Carbon is not a polutant, it is a natural element that is viatl in the ecological cycle. Emitting more into the atmosphere ony encourages plant growth, which is good for everybody. There have been studies on this, however, I cannot seem to find a lin to one atm.


Uh, yeah. Per capita figures take the total CO2e output of the country (including industry) and divide it by the population. Regardless, look back at the graphs and ignore the comparisons between countries and just look at the data for China, note how as the GDP/capita increases, so does CO2e output. Now look at the USA, note how as the GDP/capita increases, so does CO2e output. Now look at India, note how as the GDP/capita increases, so does CO2e output. You get the point I hope

 

Haha, yes, Carbon Dioxide is natural, so lets dump lots of it into the environment. You know what else is natural? Mercury, lead, arsenic, Plutonium, Uranium. Lets dump them in the water supply, 100% natural, guarenteed. There is a certain amount of natural CO2e in the environment, and then we are pumping extra in, which has negative effects. If you can't grasp that CO2 leads to climate change then I see no reason to continue this conversation.