46% of Mississippi Republicans think interracial marriage should be banned

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@pizzahut451:

Ugh, that wasnt my point. i said , if you believe morals are an made than so is rationality, and thus it cant be good or bad.

Rationality is good because it implies the best possible solution.

Do you think that Hitler thought that killing 6 million innocent people was irrational? To him, it is irrational that the Jews should have any kind of rights whatsoever. So was he an irrational person to him and to millions and millions of his followers ? No, because he thought that was perfectly rational.

What he thought is irrelevant. He wasn't rational, because his resoning started off of irrational premises, thus making all of his views irrational. Morals are subjective because they are not founded on rationality. If morals would be founded on rationality though, then they'd be objective, however lots of subjective elemets contribute to the formation of morals (context etc.).

If morals can come out the way you described it (trough religion, historcal person etc etc...) than so can ''rational'' thoughts.

You don't really undestand what rationality is, no? It's a certain type of thinking. What you're saying is that 2 2 can equal 4 in one situation, and 5 in another, because people want it to be that way, or they "think" it can be that way. Rational thinking is a method of analysing information, not a set of beliefs. There are strict rules to thinking rationally, they're not governed by impressions.

Every person has diffrent definition of ''rational'' on diffrent subject. There is a certian way of thinking in rationality but it sure as hell not the same to every person in the world so it can not possibly be absolute.

There's only one definition of rational, but thinking rational reffers to a process, to a way of thinking. The reason why people may appear to think rationally, yet reach different results is that one (or both) commited logical errors (a very common one is starting off of false premises, something which religious people are guilty of, as well as people who are paranoic).

And dont say ''just because one think hes rational, doesnt make him so'' because the same thing can be said about morals too.

But ationality is objective, wheras morals aren't.

There are no errors in rational thinking

You've obviously never heard of sophisms. I should seriosuy end this conversation now, and reccomend you just read some philosophy books.

just like there are no errors in morals 

The main error a moral can have is not being founded in logic.

As for the part ''While the moral rule may make sense in the cultural context in which it was born in, it would seem illogical to someone from another culture'' <---- The same thing can be said about rational thoughts. Do you think Mein kampf is considered a rational book in Israel?

As I said, Hitler was not rational. He broke several rules of logic when he elaborated his ideeas. Of course you wouldn't know anything about logic, would you? Just look at your whole post. You don't see the difference between rationality and morals.

 As for religion being a false superstition, you have absolutely zero evidance to make that statent, so I will just ignore it.

I don't see the need to disprove unfounded assumptions.

Im sorry, but you can not possibly explain rationality without objective morality. i've watched debate videos on this, and it is a confirmed fact.

Rationality is a method. Morality is a result, that can be reached through rational thinking, or through irrational thinking. You don't know what you're talking about. Oh well... (sigh)