| sapphi_snake said: @Kasz216: Everything actually. If you know what liberalism actually is. Are you reffering to classical liberalism? Who wants that? Aside from that... that was a pretty weak defense. Europe not being a country is a weak arguement when you consider the statement is always "He would be too conservative to be elected in europe". Why is that a weak defense? Europe is not a country, it is a continent. If the EU will one day become a federal state, then you'll have an argument. I don't care what statement is. How exactly could he be elected "in Europe"? Europe doesn't have a leader that is elected by all the people living in Europe, so I don't see your point. It depends which country in Europe you're talking about. Would Barak Obama not get elected in your country because he was too conservative? Or because he was too liberal? He would not get elected in my country because he's black, and because he's not Eastern Orthodox. Based on his political views, I think many here would like him. Even in countries like France... would he not be elected becase of his "conservative" attitudes, or would he not be elected because of his stance on minorities? He would abhor the new law that prevents people from wearing religious headgear into school, because we respect things like Freedom of religion here. That has more to do with France's secular tradition then with their conservatism. People are more anti-gay in the US then they are in Europe. Really? Your willing to say that, even from the country your in? Isn't it true that the Europeon Union's pressure is basically the only reason your gay rights law stayed in effect? It's very true and very sad that if it weren't for the EU homosexuals would have a significantly terrible life here in Romania. They still do, and the homophobes over here disgust me. It's really no different that the attitudes in your country a couple of decades ago, and probably not very different then the attitudes of some of your Southern states. But Eastern Europe is backwards because of half a century of Communism. However you'd have to be dellusional to claim that your country is more tollerant toaward gays than Western Europe. Even the more conservative countries in that region are more tolerant of your country as a whole. http://pewglobal.org/files/pdf/258.pdf I've yet to see a study that shows Europe's attitude as a whole towards homosexuals, but overall it's at worst the same as in your country (due to the Eastern states). As for stuff like opinions on abortion, i'd look at the various abortion laws, and also note the timelines needed to get an abortion. The US actually is more forgiving in that regard. Again, since Europe is not a country, a comparison is improper. I'd say the attitudes aren't negative as a whole. In my country most people agree with it, especially women. |
Since when do you defend anything related to your orgin and homeland? I mean, why would you defend Europe when YOU are from Europe? I tought you were agaisnt everything related to your ethnic orgin.
