| Shane said: The only reason this was in Nintendo's best interest is because they figured third parties wouldn't support them anyway, so they may as well cash in on the cheap hardware and first party software benefits of dumbing down the system. Whether it is actually the right move now is debateable. |
At this point I would say that it isn't debateable at all. Looking at Japan Nintendo doesn't need 3rd parties to win this war. We don't have a gamecube scenario here were Nintendo desperate needed exclusive games to get some new momentum. We have a scenario were, in japan, the only consol that is selling well is Wii. If you want to get the japanese market, you (as a 3rd party devloper) needs Nintendo more than Nintendo needs you.
| Shane said: I agree 360 won't be able to support third parties alone. There's also PS3. |
There were we back to the old PS360 alliance that would save "HD-gaming". I have more faith in that 360 would support 3rd parties alone than PS3 would be able to help. As it looks now I would say that sony should be happy if PS3 reaches 7 millions WW before 31 december 2008.
| Shane said: Despite Nintendo's more than 2:1 lead, third party games still sell better on PS3. Wii does currently have more games due to continued focus on PS2, but they're games that will sell worse, something the publishers are expecting. |
Well last time this site had monthly charts is also had total software sales for each plattform. At that time 3rd parties on Wii had sold more games in USA than the total software sales on PS3. How it looks now I don't have time to check. Japan doesn't look that good yet, but neither does PS3 software (nor xbox360) and those had better names and bigger budgetts.
EDIT:
Sorry I was wrong here: (looking at those games avvailible in the last week top 200)
- PS3 total software sales = 3,857 millions on 24 games an avarage software sale of 161k.
- Wii 3rd party software sales = 3,204 millions on 19 games an avarage software sale of 169k.
Removing Resistance, Motorstorm and F1 published by Sony gives us: 2849 on 21 titles an avarage 3 rd party software sale of 135k.
Disclaimer: I don't know if I have missed any game that hasn't charted for last week for any plattform. (I do miss daragon ball for Wii)
| Shane said: I keep repeating myself because it's true, but people can't get it through their heads because they actually believe a) third party games will sell on Wii and b) Wii will miraculously receive the next Final Fantasy exclusively. In Japan, 82.5% of all Wii games sold since the system launched have been published by Nintendo, and as I posted in another thread, the average third party Wii sales are 35% lower than the average third party PS3 sales, despite the race currently being a blowout in Wii's favor. The US isn't quite that bad, but as the article we're discussing right now shows, it's still heavily dominated by Nintendo. Furthermore, while Microsoft and Sony retain major titles (both exclusive and non-exclusive) like FF, MGS, GTA, and Gears of War, in addition to expanding their first and second party efforts (largely at Nintendo's expense), there has not been a single announcement for Wii that's really worth talking about unless it's been made from Nintendo. Playground? Rygar? Cooking Mama? Spinoff du jour (because the original isn't technologically possible)? Wake me when it's over. Nintendo will continue to create top quality software internally, but anyone expecting third parties to make a concentrated effort on anything but milking Wii while they can and to the extent that they can is going to end up disappointed. |
Looking at Japan that might be true, but the intresting part is that you still haven't asked yourself what is the quality of these titles? PS3 have some big names, Wii has showelware which is competing against Nintendos AA titles. DS has shown that 3rd parties can sell on Nintendo plattforms, they might not sell as much as Nintendo but they do sell and the pie seems to get larger in Japan because of the DS.
Now back to this "the hardware is to weak to get the main game, Wii will only get spinoffs": Dragon Quest? Yes that game that suddently moved to DS. If Wii is to weak to hold main series what is the DS?. It is also intresting that you brings up Gears of War, a new franshise for this gen. Explain for me why not a new franshise from a 3rd party cant sell well on Wii when Red Steel has shipped almost 1 million copies WW, and yes that is what matters for publishers.
The bottom line is this you can sell well on Nintendo plattforms as the DS has shown, if you make some good quality games. If you say that AA teams can't compete with Nintendos best you should ask yourself why not everybody buys a Wii now, because clearly 3rd parties can't make as good games as Nintendo.
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