| dib8rman said: @ scottie or edit the original post? So are you talking about industry or respiration it sounds like your talking about respiration honestly but the graphs seem to just talk about it in general. It's wierd how humans seem to think we aren't animals. Anyway I would be more worried about the rapid destruction of forests around the world than how much CO2 we are emitting. Otherwise your dealing with symptoms. On the topic of negative growth though yes less humans would mean less polution but doesn't that defeat the purpose or are you just happy your alive? |
It's fine as is, but you sometimes see threads break, such that every post has less horizontal room than the one above, and I don't wanna risk killing off this lovely thread
I am fairly confident that those studies ignore the effect of us breathing, regardless, being as they are set out per capita, and are talking about changes in our output, then it wouldn't really matter if it included it anyway - our natural emissions due to breathing are not effected by our GDP or country of residence, one can only assume. Additionally, regardless of the cause, it is still evidence that increased wealth increases people's CO2e output, which is what I said
FYI, cutting down of trees will be counted in all these studies to a certain degree. There is a whole bunch of carbon stored within trees, and when they are removed and burnt, that carbon is emitted into the atmosphere. This is taken into account in all studies. More detailed models (ie more detailed than any study I've done) do take into account the removal of the trees both in terms of their emission of the C they store, but also in terms of the fact that they are no longer capturing CO2 and turning it into C. Regardless, you are very right that a full solution needs to include reform of our forestry process, which is as important as reducing our consumption of energy and the development of renewable energy. Tree farms can be quite profitable, and can be run in a way that is actually slightly better for the environment than if the tree farms didn't exist at all.
As for the actual on topic bit, it seems that we are losing the fight against climate change. I would support such an effort as a two child policy. 7B people living decent lives is a much better future than 12B living in poverty, famine and war.
