An immoral relationship?

[DélioPT]

sapphi_snake said:

DélioPT said:

Yes, they are strangers too each other, but they aren``t strangers like you and me, with zero bonds whatsoever. They knew that they were family. Before meeting they talked like father and daughter. My question is, although they had no real bonds like a father and daughter do, they knew they weren``t meetins strangers, aswell.

Yes, morality is defined by humans - when it``s not the case where the fundaments come from God - as is law. The thing is, morality, specially ethics, are meant to be universal - that is, to every single person, forever - and it lives by the purpose of helping mankind be the best that it can (individually and collectively).
Law is just a big contract that no one signs but everyone lives by it. In essence it only serves peace, so, it``s more volatile than any morality, ethics or religion, as it "gives in" to achieve peace amongst it``s people and sometimes at the cost of values.

Killing someone is a tough thing to analyse. You have to look at the context. Were you thinking about something in particular?

I get that they're not ordinary strangers, but if this GA thing is true, then... Anyways they were still irresponsable.

As for the morality/ethics thing, all of them come from humans, there's no such thing as God or any other deity. The people who came up with those sistems wanted them to be "universal", they only fit the worldview of the culture they're part of. And the only values that matter are the ones for which there is no logical reason to change.

As for killing, I gave an example, the killing that soldiers do, which is not considered morally wrong (unless it's the opposing side).

You can`t blame genetics and say oh, it`s not my fault. Unless you have zero control of your body or had no conscience you are responsible for a decision you made and followed.

You don`t seem to be fond of a God idea or fundamentation but i actually am, that`s why i say all life is precious. It was something that was given to us and we won`t ever be able to grasp how meaningful it really is.
But even if i`m a believer and you are not, in my honest opinion and interpretation, is that what God wants for us is what every humanitarian - believer or not - wants for himself or everyone else: to be loved and fully respected as a person of reason and soul. It`s a system but at the same time above that. That`s what i follow and believe.
They are also believed to be universal because they are simple, independent of time, place or context, and, above all things, objective as they encompass every single person above all differences.
To me, if God is love, who in this Earth doesn`t yearn for that.
Please, don`t consider this an imposition of believes but my view of the world and a reasoning on why universal values do share the image of God - to me, that is.

Soldiers killings as any killing happens for two reasons:  a good one or a bad one. The pure defense of human life is a good reason. Killing for political reasons or just pure hatred, is a bad reason. The ones who are pulling the trigger are the ones that can say why they pulled it