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sapphi_snake said:
DélioPT said:
Seece said:
DélioPT said:

@Scottie: Actually they are. Any abortion kills a human person. Doesn``t really if they are 1 second old or ready to come out, it``s still a person in there, therefore, that``s murder. But that``s my way of seeing things.

Back to topic, is it immoral? To me it is. He is the father and she is the daughter. Father and daughter are family, not lovers.
Do i find it strange for this to happen? In this case no. They never met each other; they had no bonds at all. But at the same time, they knew they were father and daughter, therefore i don``t really believe this love was so casual as any love that comes to be. Did they fought against it? Don``t know.

Fetus isn't a person or a human ...

It isn't class as murder either so you're wrong saying that, whatever your view is.

To me it is a human in a part of it``s development and history. It``s not seen as murder? Legally it``s not but law doesn``t completely defines. We were the ones that made it. 
It``s not also classed as murder but not everywhere i think.

Morality is also defined by humans. And lots of things are not seen as murder (like what soldiers do).

Yes, they are strangers too each other, but they aren``t strangers like you and me, with zero bonds whatsoever. They knew that they were family. Before meeting they talked like father and daughter. My question is, although they had no real bonds like a father and daughter do, they knew they weren``t meetins strangers, aswell.

Yes, morality is defined by humans - when it``s not the case where the fundaments come from God - as is law. The thing is, morality, specially ethics, are meant to be universal - that is, to every single person, forever - and it lives by the purpose of helping mankind be the best that it can (individually and collectively).
Law is just a big contract that no one signs but everyone lives by it. In essence it only serves peace, so, it``s more volatile than any morality, ethics or religion, as it "gives in" to achieve peace amongst it``s people and sometimes at the cost of values.

Killing someone is a tough thing to analyse. You have to look at the context. Were you thinking about something in particular?