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Michael-5 said:
Mad55 said:
Michael-5 said:
 

Clearly your a JRPG fan, but have you played the older Final Fantasies? FFXIII doesn't light a match compared to Final Fantasy V and VI, and a lot of people love VII and VIII.

You should give Lost Odyssey a try, it's somewhat better then FFXIII, more original, less linear, and just better. I'm going to boot up Infinite Undiscovery and Tales of Vesperia over the summer. I have a lot of JRPG's to catch up on.

Still, just because you're not a fan of WRPG's doesn't mean they suck this gen. The JRPG genre has been on a downward spiral since the SNES and arguably the PS1 days. You jsut don't see as many good JRPG's as you did back then, and NONE to the level of quality Chrono Trigger, FFVI, and Super Mario RPG were at.

This gen, WRPG's are kicking JRPG's butts. FFXIII won GOTY on 1 website, well Mass Effect 2 won it on most websites. Even then FFXIII is one JRPG, what else has there been thats been good and sold well lately? Demon Souls, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia, Star Ocean, Valkeria Chonicles, those are all 2008/2009 games, they are old. There are a few good ones coming this fall, but not many (Dark Souls, XenoBlade). In the last 2 years the WRPG genre has seen Mass Effect 2, Fallout NV, and Dragon Age 2 to name a few, and this fall were going to see Mass Effect 3 and Elder Scrolls 5.

jrpgs are only loing to wrpgs this gen in sales to me. you said to name a few regarding wrpgs but honestly those were most of the good ones. Ive seen more garbage wrpgs this jen than jrpgs. Also ff5 really doesnt compare to ff13 on any level its story was meh lol. And saying that jrpgs have been on a downard spiral is just opinion based to me cause ive played alot of great jrpgs this gen some with better qualities than the snes and ps1 days.

Ratings too. Have any JRPG's scored 9.5 or higher? Heck only 3 have gotten 9/10 ratings or higher (Demon Souls, Valkeria Chronicles, and Lost Odyssey).

Final Fantasy lost it's charm in the PS2 era. I mean FFXI and FFXIV are just plain garbage, FFXII was mostly automatic gameplay, and FFX was alright, but nothing compared to the SNES and PS1 Final Fantasy's.

I mean quality aside, just compare how many good JRPGs there were during the PS2 era and now in this one. The current gen sees maybe 1-4 good JRPGs a year, when PS2 was around it was abut 10 a year. I mean where the heck is Suidoken?

I know you agree that the SNES and PS1 generation had the most good quality JRPGs. Well PS2 was somewhat below the PS1 in terms of number and quality and the Wii/PS3/360 mix is a level below that. Hence downward spiral, I think most can agree they are loosing the attention they got before.

Oh know were going to metascores? most people who play jrpgs woul;d give them much higher scores than what professional reviewers are gviving them. Just look at tales of vesperia its meta is like 79 but it whipes the floor with most wrpgs in my opinion. but regardless of what you say or i say its all opinionated not fact. you cant prove to me on a large scale that  jrpg fans are dissapointed with this gens jrpgs because theirs to much to enjoy. And no id actually say that last gen and this gen has the most quality jrpgs your letting nostalgia blind you from good games this and last gen. Anf ff9 and 10 are my favorite final fantasies and they are better thn any 16 and 8 bit variations in the series.