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@albion i respect your opinion but im not ready to give up on motion controls yet. Shovelware really screwed it up, to much "me too" Wii games out their and it didnt help that the motion tech wasnt even close to 1:1, it took too long to release a add-on to fixt that conundrum, and they dont even support the damn thing. Flingsmash?! WTF was that??? Move is just a souped up Wiimote and Kinect is a hyper PSeye, none of them are delivering compelling software