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Calmador on 26 March 2011
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vlad321 said:
Calmador said:
vlad321 said:
Calmador said:


Now your just being difficult. Do you actually think I think gifts are wrong? Be  a little realistic. I understand some things can be free... video games are not free though.

It's stealing.

Then define stealing for me, because whatever your definition is I bet you I can show you just how ignorant it is. You provided me with one, and I went ahead and showed you why it's just plain stupid. I would also like to know how Google's software (like android, it's a freaking complete OS) is different than a game company's software, yet you feel fine not paying for it

To get something without paying for it. Gifts are exeptions because thier gifts.

I would also like to define a gift.

Gifts are when you sacrfice something for someone and you no longer have it or use it. The sacrfice makes it a gift.

I guess in this case it does matter if the item dissappears.

Good deeds vs Bad deeds...

They are opposites in that area... makes sense.

I want your definition of stealing.


So I guess if I give a friend of mine a CD I copied it's not a gift? Also how do you explain how using Google software isn't theft but developer software is theft?

My definition of stealing does not matter because you are the one claiming that piracy is theft, so the burden of proof is on you, not me. All I have to do is show that your definition is bad.

Yes exactly it's theft if you copy a CD and give it to a friend. You didn't give it as a gift btw since you still own a copy. A gift requires sacrfice. You didn't sacrifice the CD, it wasn't gifted.

I've never used Google software, so I'm not too sure about it. But you did say it's a Free OS. Things like that are either  by permission of the creator or are actually paid for by ads. Also those are services, not products. Different market, different ways of doing business so on that I think they are not relevant enough to compare.

You have a definition of why it ISN'T stealing so spill it.

 



All gaming systems, consoles/PC, have thier perks... why fight over preferences? I like Coke and you like Pepsi, that's it, let's not fight over which toy we like best cause that's what they are. Is someone's preference in a toy important or is the relationship between you and your neighbor more important? Answer is obvious, but THE most important thing is your relationship with God almighty. God Bless you in Jesus's name.

I can communicate without talking... I can send a loved one money without actually sending money... and I can commit theft without the product disappearing, the point of theft is the point of theft not one of it's possible symptoms which is the product dissappearing. The thief wants to gain something without paying for it, that's the point of theft, the thief doesn't have to care or anybody else has to care if the product dissappears. The product dissappearing is just a possible symptom of theft. Gifts are sacrfices, in order to give a gift, it has to be a genuine sacrfice/gift, meaning a copy of the game isn't still in your PC. Piracy is theft and/or being a culprit of theft.