Conduit 2: The Game Sony & Microsoft will envy not having on their console.

[LordTheNightKnight]

kitler53 said:

LordTheNightKnight said:

kitler53 said:

i see your admitted improper responce and retract my jackass response.

but lolz -- wii's online is no where near psn or live. 

wii's used to have a win in the controls column but now move (and maybe kinect??) leveled that playing field for the HD consoles. 

but lolz at saying wii's online is anywhere near psn or live.  and yes graphics count -- it's addes to the immersion.  and like you said, that extra horse power can be put into greater scale which can in fact improve the gameplay.  it also can increase the player count which also improves the gameplay.  it improves the dynamic nature of the maps which again improves the gameplay.

there is a very good reason i started the gen as a wii/nintedo fanboy and switched.  the HD consoles are just improving games far too much to just sit around and wait for nintendo to catch up.

I just wrote in the case of Black Ops showing Wii online can be done well.

And immersion is from design, not detail. Immersion in gaming is imagination, not tricking you into thinking it's real. And I wrote that scale is not always used, and NOT the same as graphics. That's what the bolded part is. Lair proved that they are not the same.

immersion is about feeling connected to the game you are playing and doesn't come from design but from absolutely every aspect of the game.

bad voice acting, bad story, poor controls, lag, boring gameplay, repetitive gameplay, terrible music, poorly chosen sound effects, bad camera angles, and yes even bad graphics all can distract a gamer from keeping their focus on the game and break the immersion.

graphics is by no means the only thing that creates immersion but faced with this...

or this...

...the second screen is much more visually interesting and desirable to look at.

it's not about tricking the gamer into thinking its real, it's about giveing the gamer something beautiful enough to make it worth their time to keep watching. 

from the way you just did and many other wii fans in general talk about graphics one would think you view graphics as something intended to re-create real life. well that's just wrong.  it's not just games attempting to be realistic that benefit from the higher level of detail, polycounts, resolutions offered by the HD consoles.  all games can benifit regardless of their respective chosen art styles.

The problem is that you are looking at a flashy image that is technically a cut scene versus a scene of actual gameplay.

Plus you are putting the details of the graphics over the artistry, which is something I've been calling on for years.