| sapphi_snake said: @pizzahut451: I'm tired of this conversation, so I'l just adress some points quickly. Atheism is intolerant, it claims all religions are wrong. see what i did there ??? Atheism means not beleiving in religions. When a religion teaches that it's the only right one, it's followers will try to eliminate all other religions (Christians have been very good at doing this). Oh but im just jidging it by the behaviour of some atheist i've meet in life (aka YOU). If you can be judgemental, so can I. And NO WHERE does jesus nor God say that other religions are evil, again, its just your hate speech, nothing more It's hate speech that come from Christians, not me. Study about Christian's attitudes towards other religions throughout time. Study christian attidutes? what the hell? How can you study something like that? There are 2 billion christian people, you want me to go around the world and ask them what do they think of other religions? And another thing: Stop taking my points out of context and twisting your own. You said ''Christianity is opressing'' but thats not the same as saying ''Christians are opressive''. I asked if Christianity is opressive where does Christ says all other religions are evil and wrong (fun fact: Jesus was a JEW!!!). Christianity is based on his teachings, and yet nowhere does he say other religions are evil. Yes, lots of ''christians'' were opressive trough the ages, but thats not what you said in the first place. You said christianity is opressive and that is straight up wrong, no matter how many christians were opressive, since their behaviour goes directly against Jesus's teachings. Buddhism isnt real religion. Its a spiritual lifestyle No, Buddhism is a religion. Ok, do you mind telling me in what kind of higher power they believe? What is their holly scripture (their holly book)?... Yup, they have none.Quite te religion, right? Yes, because in countries like Germany, France, Sweden and Denmark, christians are very intolerant of muslim imigration minority there, despite their behaviour...Yup, thre is some hardcore extermination of muslims here... That's thanks to secularism, not Christianity (not to mention that those countries are not particularly religious). And muslims are very little trusted in those countries FTR. Ugn, no. Secularism has nothing to do with it. People rule those countries, not the politics or church. And if people of western Europe (who are mostly christianis in majority) didnt want muslim immigrantes in their country, than muslim imigration in western Euorpe would have been much smaller. People >>> governmant politics H SWEET MOTHER OF GOD, WHAT THE HELL HAVE I JUST READ??????????????? Spain stealing lands that belong to muslims? Are you fucking serious? I cant believe you just wrote that... Maybe you should read your own links. And maybe you should educate yourself more on this subject. There was no Kingdom of Spain when the Moors came. There were Visigoths who ruled the Iberian Peninsula, and they were terrible rulers who lost the Peninsula due to theri incompetence. The Moors were not radicals, and were tolerant of Christians and Jews. They built the most civilized and advanced state of Medieval Europe, and without them and their preservation of knowledge (like works of tyhe Greek philosophers, plus their own studies in fields like mathematics, astrology or medicine) Christian Western Europe would've never had a Reneissance (Christians had given up on things like education and literacy and hygene I suggest you visit Italy some day). The only intolerant muslims weren't moors, but radical Islamic mercenaries they at one point had to hire from North Africa to protect themselves against the invading Chrisitans (they actually didn't have a good military force, as they were more interested in knowledge then warfare, which led to internal conflicts and the fragmentation of their empire).Here you go again with word twisting anc changing subject. Seriously, you should hear the words you type. You said and i am quotting you: '' I think you don't really know much about the Reconquista. It was essentially Christians from the North of Spain stealing lands that for centuries belonged to muslims'',<------- YOUR OWN WORDS on which i replaied with links that say that IT WERE MUSLIMS WHO attacked Iberian Peninsula and Christians, a LAND that DID NOT BELONG to them. Christians start retaking LAND THAT BELONGED TO THEM, before MUSLIMS ATTACKED THEM. These facts prove that Christians only wanted to retake tha land that was stolen from them by muslim conquers, But you, as usual, twist the topic and start saying how muslims wre really good, smart and tolerant despite that having nothing to do with our discussion. It doesnt change the fact that they ATTACKED THE LAND THAT DOESNT BELONG TO THEM. So just fucking admit you were wrong, nobody is gonna kill your family and castrate you with a chansaw if you do that from time to time. By comparison the Spanish Christians led a campaign of ethnic clensing that wiped out the millions of muslim who lived in the Iberian Peninsula (deportions, forced conversion, and killing). The Moors never resorted to those things, as most people willingly converted to Islam when they invaded the Peninsula.Yes, God forbid they werent nice to people who took ther land and homes, but it doesnt matter if they were nice to them or not, it doesnt chnage the fact that muslim started the war, christians only seek to retake take their land. For more information watch the documentary When the Moors Ruled in Europe. I'll reccomend books to you if you want, when my Intercultural Communication teacher gives us our reading list (she's a devout Christian FTR, so she has no pro-muslim/anti-christian bias). As for inquisition, you didnt provide any arguments there... The Inquisition was itself a process of eliminating everything that Chrisitans though were dangerous to their beleif system (sects which they deemd as heretics, Jews, Muslims, witches etc.). If they didn't find these groups dangerous, why would they persecute them and attempt to wipe them out? Inqusition, has but NOTHING TO DO with spreading of christianity, which is my main point, on which you tried to twist words, as always. Seriously, stop doing that |







