Media Create Week Ending March 5th

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jarrod said:

 

M.U.G.E.N said:

until the day you plug in your ds into your home tv for multiplayer games or until the day different members of the same house needs to buy a home console each...no not the same 'market'

some members might have switched to a different market but there are two very different markets for those products

The things is, the Japanese don't care.  Handhelds are becoming more console-like in capability, in visuals, in software, and they're effectively replacing them.  That's the point, today's game market in Japan doesn't slot down neatly between home and handheld lines like the west does... handhelds today literally are filling the needs home consoles used to.  Consumers aren't driving the switch either, the platforms themselves are.

When you look back at Japan's generational "market leaders", it's basically a direct line from Famicom to Super Famicom to PlayStation to PlayStation 2 to Nintendo DS.  Just because Wii is the best selling platform of it's kind, doesn't mean it's market leader.  

 

NYANKS said:

The 12 million people who bought a Wii in Japan would tend to disagree I think.  They didn't buy that because they mistook it for a DS.  They want games.  It's not their fault they'e not getting them.  On PS3, games are doing pretty well.  

On PS3, games do pretty week for a week or two and then vanish from existence.  Make no mistake, no home console really has what one should call a healthy games market.

 

postofficebuddy said:

I've asked you about this multiple times now. What makes you so certain that NGP will cut so heavily into PS3 sales? PS2 went on to sell another 6 million after the PSP launch, which was effectively marketed as a portable PS2. And the scenario that you have Wii in basically assumes that DQX doesn't release until it's too late for it to have any effect, despite the fact that you seem to assume that it's coming this year.

lol, why is PS2 being brought into this?  How much did PS2 sell before PSP launched?  Now how much will PS3 have sold before NGP launches?

NGP makes PS3 an unnecessary platform from a Japanese perspective, that's what makes me so sure it's going to eat into sales.  It can do more or less everything PS3 can gaming wise, and more on top of that, for probably around the same cost.

And while DQX will undoubtedly give Wii a nice bump, I don't think it'll be anywhere near sustainable.  It's not NSMB or Wii Fit.

 

psrock said:

FinalEvangelion said:

psrock said:

By Jarrod belief, The PSP is the market leader right now in japan.

If it's convenient.  I'm not sure a Sony console would count as being convenient to him.

To be fair, he has acted like the Wii doesn't exist right now, while calling the top selling game this week  a disapointment. By ignoring the Wii, it assures that it doesn't exist thus cannot lead. 

lol, if you're going to try and troll me, you can at least start by actually responding to me rather than trying to put words in my mouth.  I thought we'd been through this before?

Market leaders are cumulative, thus PSP can't ever really be considered one.  It did do really well in the end though, thanks pretty much entirely to Capcom.  Sony better be shelling out the cash for MHP4, or NGP is fucked.

And the top selling game this week is a sequel that did about half what it's predecessor did and about half it's first shipment... if that's not a disappointment, then what is?  

 

Zlejedi said:

megaman79 said:

3.5 weeks to go untill end of 2010 FY.

209k pw X 3.5

total thus far = 1.35 Million 3DS's.

Nintendo needs to sell 2.6 Million 3DS's in PAL/US to meet their 4 Million Projection.

I am slightly hesitant, as a Nintendo investor, that they won't meet this in 12 days of retail.

It won't be selling 200k per week.

Next week should be 150k ,then 120k and 100k

Maybe, but for the first two weeks they've basically sold what they've supplied.  It's not a complete sellout, but it is sold out regionally, and stock is constantly moving even where there is supply.

More telling is that sellouts seem to be happening at department and general electronics stores, rather than specialty and game shops, meaning sales are likely much more weighted to the mainstream than the software sales would've implied.  Looks like PSP's going to hold on to the Otaku for awhile.

I'm answering to your response to me

You are missing the point here completely. It doesn't MATTER if a market is shrinking and if the other is expanding relative to it. you can't just combine markets as 'you' see fit. Home consoles and handhelds cater to 'different' audiences. Guess who buys home consoles? People who wants them!

I repeat DIFFERENT markets. If Japanese are losing interest, that's all good. It just means 'handheld' market is expanding in Japan, nothing more nothing less. You are just running around this for some reason.

So fact of the matter is, handheld market leader in Jp = DS/ Console market leader in Jp = Wii. Losing interest in a product = shrinking market, not because they think it's the same thing