Sony's plan to usurp 3DS with their PSP2 revealed

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jarrod said:

M.U.G.E.N said:

1. don't care about nintendo, not sure what the point of you typing all that was, didn;t even bother reading it. This is about psp

2. If you also think his statement about how he can't think of any other major studio support for the psp other than japan studio and 'ape escape' I won't waste anymore of my time with you (or him for that matter)

3. Sony first party have always supported the handhelds well. Just because Santa Monica (well they did colab on GoS) and ND and few others didn't pitch in on the psp doesn't mean anything

4. Doesn't seem like any of you have played games made by teams like Bend for the psp. hence this nonsense of 'treating as secondary' comes to play. Games will be smaller obviously on the handheld, expecting otherwise is foolishness. And main teams who worked on the original IP made the same games for the handheld too like GG, PD, Inocognito, Bend, Zipper. All those game were of good quality as well.

seriously not sure why I even bother at this point :S you guys are stuck in this one frame of mind about the psp and support it got that you refuse to look beyond it. I'm done with this thread and responding to ignorant comments like this.

1. Actually, this thread is about 3DS and NGP.  I just brought us full circle and back on topic. ;)

2. You're missing his point, it's that (mostly) only Japan really seems to take PlayStation handhelds seriously.  SCEA/SCEE doesn't, they farm out brands to secondary teams or largely just don't put in the effort.  And this thinking seems to have jumped right over to NGP, despite their clear failings with this approach for PSP in the west. 

3. No, having their AAA teams not make PSP/NGP games means exactly that they're not supporting the handheld side as well as they should be.  This is why I drew the Nintendo comparison, they literally bring their A game to DS/3DS, it's the real deal.  This is why they dominate, because essentially they don't believe in the "handheld ghetto".  Sony's ideology is their biggest enemy in the handheld arena.

4. It's not just teams, it's scope (which I mentioned before).  Super Mario or Mario Kart or Animal Crossing... across handhelds or consoles, they share a similar scope.  It's the "full experience", on DS or Wii (or now 3DS).  Killzone Liberation?  GT Portable?  Fireteam Bravo 1-2?  They're all cut down, smaller scope, smaller scale, sometimes different genre even, than their console counterparts.  Even just PS2 ports probably would've been preferable in all those cases.  And for Killzone and SOCOM, they've even moved to outsourced teams since.

What you said pretty much sums things up, my three favorite teams on Sonys payroll are Naughty Dog, Insomniac, and Sony Japan, and only one of those teams has even supported the PSP... and they supported the PSP with a port of a mainline PS1 title and some minigame collections, so other than the port I really didn't care they made games on the PSP cause they're not what I want to play.  

Out of all the titles Sonys outsouced the only game to come out better than the mainline was Resistence and I will swear by that game, but the console series is probably some of the worst FPS mechanics so it's not hard (seriously they need to put Insomniac on some new platformer IP rather than some new FPS IP, but this is getting away from the topic)

Basically I buy Nintendo handhelds cause I know Nintendos first party will support them with a slew of mainline and quality titles, on the PSP I waited till there was enough support from Square till I got it (Crisis Core and bought a star wars white PSP with it) since then I've looked into things from every genre, the pickings are rather slim for good original titles on the PSP that are designed with the handheld mentality, most of them are cut down console games, and that's simply not what I nor most people want on the go.  This isn't me slamming my PSP since I've been playing it more than my DS the past month (because of tactics ogre) it's that those games that get me away from my DS are few and far between and rarely ever come from Sony themselves.  

Then I see NGPs line up and it's again outsourced games attached to IPs I generally don't care for, Uncharted is the only one I do care for, but by the looks of that game it's built around the same idea of the GoW and R&C games on PSP, take assets from the mainline, color by numbers, do nothing new, and done! I don't want to play that, sorry, I'll wait for reviews on the launch lineup and probably wait till if/when a Monster Hunter or a Kingdom Hearts title hits the NGP, in the mean time I'll just play my Capcom games and Kingdom Hearts on my 3DS.